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Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/12/16 2:12 p.m.

Looking around on Craigslist for challenge car ideas and saw a cheap fiero......but it's an 85 4 cyl with an auto tranny

Thoughts?

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/12/16 2:57 p.m.

The chronograph instrumentation package came in calendar form..

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/12/16 3:04 p.m.

My guess would be 0-60 in 11-12 seconds or so.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
3/12/16 3:04 p.m.

Mmmmmmmmirondukemmmmm.

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo UltimaDork
3/12/16 3:12 p.m.

Not dangerously slow, definitely a momentum car though.

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
3/12/16 3:17 p.m.

SC3800 from Gran Prix/Park Ave/etc + 5 speed from Cavalier/Sunfire =

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
3/12/16 3:24 p.m.
RealMiniParker wrote: SC3800 from Gran Prix/Park Ave/etc + 5 speed from Cavalier/Sunfire =

What he said. Lots of GM V6 swaps documented. I even knew one guy that shoe horned in a Northstar into one.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/12/16 3:35 p.m.

Only reasons to buy a 4 cylinder are:

  1. Its very clean and you want to motor swap it

  2. its very clean and you don't care about speed

  3. it very cheap and you need a car.

I've own 4, only one was 4 cylinder for reason 3.

Don't get me wrong, they are good cars, but the 4 w/auto is slow.....

belteshazzar
belteshazzar PowerDork
3/12/16 4:02 p.m.

I had a 4 cylinder with a manual transmission. Between the 4500rpm redline and only being a 4sp, anything over 65 felt like abuse. My 1981 nissan 200sx was significantly faster.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
3/12/16 4:03 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote: My guess would be 0-60 in 11-12 seconds or so.

I doubt it's that fast.

MCarp22
MCarp22 Dork
3/12/16 4:43 p.m.

About as slow as a BR-Z according to the Internet.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/12/16 4:50 p.m.

Nocones on here had one & let me take it for an autocross run or 2...probably 15+ years ago. It had reasonable torque for its weight, so it wasn't too bad on a tight course. It would probably be a blast in city driving, as long as you didn't need to win any stoplight drags. Below highway speeds it really didn't feel any slower than a 1.6 Miata to me, but that may partly have been due to the feeling of being closer to the ground.

Edit: I should clarify that his wasn't an automatic. No idea how much of a penalty that comes with.

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
3/12/16 4:55 p.m.

Believe it or not, the Iron Duke and the automatic were pretty much made for each other. It's pretty big at 2.5 L, and has lots of low-end torque, but pretty much done by 4500 rpm. No sweat, the auto will just shift up a gear and keep the torque flowing. When I first married my wife (almost 25 years ago!), she had a Grand-Am with that same combo, and the thing actually ran pretty well. I believe the 10.6 0-60 times I've seen published for the Fiero, at least when it was new. Now, 30 years later, I'm not sure what ponies would be left in the stable.

Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/12/16 5:07 p.m.

According to the interwebz it's about the same as my daily driver 0-60 .......I drive a 00 ford explorer as my dd lol

Although its also apparently as fast as a caprice but unlike the caprice it doesn't seem like there is much cheap ways to get more power out of it vs a sbc

I'm not sure I want to get in to serious drive train swaps for my first challenge....maybe after awhile ill drop a sbc into a fiero if it'll fit

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
3/12/16 6:17 p.m.

A guy by us shows a stock looking one at the Lemont, IL car show in the summer. Really stock looking except for that V8 he neatly tucked in. I'm not a Fiero fan but was looking for them on Craigslist that night.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
3/12/16 6:36 p.m.

In reply to Antihero:

Where are you located?
What CL cities do you shop?
I suspect we can find you a Challenge car.

My first answers will be Lincoln Mark 8, anything Infiniti and Volvo S80 t6 with 6cyl twin turbo.

djsilver
djsilver Reader
3/12/16 8:22 p.m.

I read that the Fiero used a Chevette front subframe and suspension in the rear, and some other parts bin front-end? (except for the last year '87 model)

Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/12/16 9:15 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: In reply to Antihero: Where are you located? What CL cities do you shop? I suspect we can find you a Challenge car. My first answers will be Lincoln Mark 8, anything Infiniti and Volvo S80 t6 with 6cyl twin turbo.

I use the Spokane wa and Coeur d alene Craigslist. I would appreciate the help, I have a few ideas and feelers out there but I would love more options

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/12/16 9:28 p.m.
djsilver wrote: I read that the Fiero used a Chevette front subframe and suspension in the rear, and some other parts bin front-end? (except for the last year '87 model)

Actually it was the Citation subframe as that was fwd.

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath SuperDork
3/12/16 9:38 p.m.

Very slow. I drove a 4 speed and it was tolerable in town but not so much at highway speeds. Can't imagine the auto helps.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Dork
3/12/16 9:45 p.m.

This one was a 4, but it might have had some parts thrown at it.

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
3/13/16 12:03 a.m.
Antihero wrote: ....maybe after awhile ill drop a sbc into a fiero if it'll fit

Last time I looked, the V8 Archie mounting kits were going for upwards of $900. That's why I suggested SC3800. There area couple kits for less than half that.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
3/13/16 12:47 a.m.

https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/5466417421.html. Says feel free to shoot an offer. I'll bet you could have this car that runs for between $500 and $1k.

Not really fast but rare and cool. Claims to run. https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/5482753387.html.

Also rare and cool. https://pullman.craigslist.org/cto/5452504984.html

More rare and cool. https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5476416103.html. https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5487481796.html. https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5441287226.html https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/5483899118.html

https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5488039343.html https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5477959643.html. https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5441860132.html.

Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/13/16 1:38 a.m.

I love karmann ghias.....the tow bar being on makes it unlikely to run lol

Contacted the xt guy and never got a response.

The Volvo is interesting ill message him. Thanks!

NickD
NickD HalfDork
3/13/16 7:17 a.m.
vwcorvette wrote:
djsilver wrote: I read that the Fiero used a Chevette front subframe and suspension in the rear, and some other parts bin front-end? (except for the last year '87 model)
Actually it was the Citation subframe as that was fwd.

And '88 was the last year and the year with the dedicated rear suspension. GM did their usual stunt of killing the car off as soon as they perfected it. Pity, because the '89 was slated to be available with a convertible and the 3400 Twin Cam

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