garaithon
garaithon New Reader
10/11/11 2:43 p.m.

So Im surfing craigslist (arn't we all?) and came across a 87 BMW 635csi, with 5speed! I have never really given these cars much thought, as they are hard to find. This one looks pretty nice but has 200k+ miles. The ac doesn't work and the passenger window doesn't work. There is also a minor oil leak.

I spoke with the owner and he said it runs and drives good. Im going to look at it this weekend. So what should I look out for, and what are the common upgrades? This would be a DD for me. I read the engines are pretty tough, but not much else...

Thanks guys!

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/11/11 2:45 p.m.

rustrustrustrustrust.. Karman was synonomous with rust

nderwater
nderwater SuperDork
10/11/11 2:57 p.m.

6ers are solid, handsome cars saddled with fiddly, delicate interior bits and soft, wallowy suspensions. The latter is easily cured with Bilsteins and H&R springs.

ppddppdd
ppddppdd Reader
10/11/11 3:15 p.m.

200K is nothing on an M30. It might very well be the most durable motor/trans ever were it not for the cooling systems that like to poop out and warp heads.

Upgrade options are practically unlimited. Tons of stuff swaps directly over from other cars in the BMW family. Short shifters, better diffs, suspension parts, wheels, etc. Chipping the ECU and adding a lightweight single mass flywheel and a shorter ratio LSD will really wake up a north american M30. They take to turbos fairly well, though it's not a very flow-y head. Or go nuts with an S50 swap...

Assume you'll need to replace all the suspension and driveline rubber bits and the shocks. Budget $1500-$2000 for parts. That's probably the only thing it'll really need unless the water pump is old.

Not sure if the 635csi still had the crappy fuse panel the E28's did, but make sure it's not all melty inside.

Rust is the kicker. Doors, rockers and the trunk are the likely spots.

HVAC systems are primitive. Never warm or cold or blowy enough.

Dashes crack and are expensive to replace.

It'll idle rough. Vacuum leaks and the idle control valve are culprits.

Valve adjustments are manual, easy and will be a little clatter-y even when done right.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
10/11/11 4:31 p.m.

They are among the most beautiful cars ever built. And that's all I will say about that.

pitbull113
pitbull113 Reader
10/11/11 4:39 p.m.

had one, loved it, miss it

Timeormoney
Timeormoney Reader
10/11/11 7:27 p.m.

Check the mount for the steering box, it connects are three points. 2 of them make a nice pivot and the pot metal 3 point breaks. There is a great kit to fix this, around 60 bucks.

Check the wheels, make sure they aren't the metric ones, pretty easy to tell as the tire size will seem very odd.

Get the car up to 60 or so, does it shimmy?
1) steering fix from above
2) upgrade to the 7 series bushing on the control arm
3) somebody grabbed a set of cheap 5 series wheels from that year that BMW ran a different bore on the wheels.

If it has self-leveling suspension, prepare to replace it with standard sixer stuff.

The rear diff bushing like to fail, its the easiest way to tell that your subframe bushings are going to fail. The are annoying to replace, the diff bushing is a joke.

Weird thumping noise? time for a new drive-shaft. If possible visually inspect the center bearing on the 2 piece drive shaft. There is a rubber isolator in there, it fails; time for a rebuild driveshaft.

Check the condition of the brakes, it may/should have a hydraulic instead of vacuum assist. Most notable from the report rock hard pedal (only thing from the above list that I haven't had fail on my 6)

Plug wires, price them... then go get a set of after market full silicon racing ones in 10mm for 1/3 the price.

If the car wont start, and you were anywhere near the firewall on the driver side, you just disconnected the CPS, plug it back in.

Check the heat, it can either be the heater control valve (located on the firewall by the CPS connector.....) its cheap. Or it the temp sensor for inside the car...its waaaay not cheap.

Air conditioning, the compressor is good. When it squeals like a pig, tell the ac guy to manually fill it with oil. Better yet, tell him to fill it with oil before he calls you on the phone and ask you to diagnose the squealing in the background.

The steering hydraulics leak, keep a quart in the car. Mine likes dextron something or other synthetic. The power steering reserve has a filter type element/screen in it, clean it.

The front bushing need to be re torqued after the weight on the car has been placed on them, then re-torqued again. Basically check them a lot after install.

The factory radio has a code, make sure you have that code. Replace all the fuses now, or at random intervals during your first road trip.

Check the aux cooling fan, when working properly it will draw too much current and melt the fuse box. When working improperly, you get to play watch the temp climb at the drive through. Yours probably does not work. Yours may have already melting portions of the fuse block.

The passenger window doesn't work because A) the switch in the center console is bad, test this by swapping it with one of the others B) the connect in the door is fouled, spray it with wd40 to test C) the motor is shot and you get to go junk yard hunting.

That's all I can think of, and remember mine was a M6 so not all this will apply to you, but all of this has happened to me except for where noted.

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
10/12/11 12:15 p.m.

This car has a rebuilt driveshaft already, so thats one thing off the list. The radio doesnt work, so I would say the code is lost... Anyway to get it?

He said it had some minor rust, so depending on his idea of minor rust, will be the main deciding factor. I will be printing this thread off when I go to look at this car!

Whats the best source for parts? Rockauto?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
10/12/11 12:18 p.m.

Is this white?

I saw a white one for sale in Nashville yesterday...

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
10/12/11 12:22 p.m.

No its light blue, on the north west side. What time are we working on the escort Saturday?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
10/12/11 12:23 p.m.

Early-ish i think... would like to have the beer run completed and first bolt turned by like... 10-10:30?

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
10/12/11 12:34 p.m.

Ok sounds like a plan. Ill be there about 10ish then.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
10/12/11 12:41 p.m.

I'll probably have you meet me at my place if that's cool, that way i've got someone following watching just in case the radiator in the MX6 decides it doesn't want to finish that one last trip.

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
10/12/11 12:49 p.m.

Thats sounds good send me a text with the coordinates!

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