NGTD wrote:NGTD wrote: I have owned my 2.0L Golf for almost 3 years. I have had 1 CEL in that whole time.Of course right after posting this I go out at lunch to run an errand . . . . . CEL comes on!!!
Our 2.0 Jetta I swear the CEL was pretty much on every other week. And the weeks it was off, thaose were the weeks when a power window went bad or something.
Looks like the Camshaft Position Sensor is a goner
Knurled wrote:dropstep wrote: What motor? My dads 2.0T car was having issues with the mass of plastic lines used for the secondary air system. Car would run like E36 M3 with every new leak. They were NLA from all the local parts stores. VW aluminum oil pans just about all seem too need the drainplug threads repaired.Air pump plastic failure is 90% caused by bad diverter valves allowing exhaust gases into them and 10% careless underhood work. If you replace the plastic bits without replacing the diverter valve, they will fail again very rapidly. Oil pan issues are 100% hamfisted lube jockeys. As a preventative measure, replace the drain plug with one that uses a captivated O-ring as they seal very well with minimal torque. And never ever ever take your car to a quick-lube place. Ever.
Seeing as how i work in a full service lube shop i may be one of those ham fisted guys. I know what causes it i just know we get to repair alot of them thanks to the local wal mart.
We couldnt find new lines for my dads car, he didnt look the car over well before buying it and alot of them were electrical taped together.
I love air cooled vw's but like most people i normally only see the water cooled ones after there beat too E36 M3.
In reply to dropstep:
I'm not saying that ALL quick-lube guys are gorillas. Just that there is a very high correlation with quick-lube window stickers and overtightened drain plugs and oil filters. What's that about good experiences is like oxygen, you only notice when it's gone?
Relevant to this thread, I have a customer who had an Audi TT. (I wanted to buy it when he got bored with it. I nearly did when the throwout bearing failed, but then he went and had us fix it instead. Then he sold it a short time later... oh well, at least I got paid to deal with that repair nightmare vs. dealing with it on my own time) For over 150k we serviced it, it still had all of the undertray fasteners and OE drain plug and unmolested oil pan. In an emergency (?) he took it to Lube Stop. Brought it to us in a week after the undertray fell down and was destroyed. Most of the fasteners were missing as were the little metal retainers that go into the subframe/side panels. And the drain plug was leaking, oil pan was ruined by the berktards. Worst of all, they said they'd fix it but they were too cheap to get a real Audi undertray ($500ish, IIRC), they got some no-name flimsy Rock Auto piece of crap that needed half of the holes redrilled when I installed it. I didn't want the car anymore after that, I could not ever reconcile having that crappy undertray that was only there because of some negligent half-ass who should have his tools taken away. In my mind the car was totalled after that.
So, I hope ou understand why I feel such frustration. Or another exmaple, I replaced the oil pan in a customer's unicorn, a Protege that was so clean that it was worth replacing the rusted-out oil pan. FIRST oil change, Lube Stop overtorqued the drain plug and wrecked its threads. Fortunately the pan wasn't damaged, but we don't give away drain plugs for free and we won't reinstall a damaged one.
We have a reputation for fixing all the quick lube screw ups so i know exactly how you feel. I recently did a honda civic for a lady after wal mart took 2 hours trying to get the drain plug out because they stripped it on the way in the last time it was there. They offered to pay for it But were refusing the labor rate that the boss charges for anything that isnt a normal oil change. The lady is now a customer of ours for life and it only took 25 minutes of my time. I just occasionally get irked when everyone is grouped together. Between wal mart and quick lane i dont trust anyone to touch my car (makes getting an alignment a pain).
Anyway ill quit derailing the thread, i just know as many "dealer techs" that are as bad as quick lubes in this area.
In reply to dropstep:
One of the shops we trade work back and forth with has a STACK of 10-12 Volkswagen oil pans. The local VW dealership farms out the oil pain repair to them. The stack is repaired pans ready to go, then they take the stripped/damaged ones as cores. They're in constant rotation.
I don't disagree that there are a bunch of hacks at the dealership level too. Heck that is a good chunk of why I left working at dealerships, the atmosphere attracts people who only care about getting money vs. doing a proper repair. I can not handle that mentality.
Before I make it sound like the VWs are a nightmare for oil pans, the drain plug gorilla-intolerance extends to engines like Chrysler 2.7s and Honda 3.5s. The Hondas are the worst because the drain plug position relative to the subframe means that there is no way to get a straight shot in-chassis. We normally will Heli-Coil in-situ, but that is damned near impossible on 90% of Hondas. We've done it successfully many times but it's scary.
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