Mazda still trying to bring diesel to the US.

Apparently the CX-5 is the first car they are going to try to put it in.

Excuse the source. There might be other info around about it.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/11/mazda-cx-5-diesel-appear-u-s-next-year-report/

Well it makes sense, CUVs are still hot sellers. They should still drop it in the 6 though.

Heard that before. I'll believe it when I see it.

Where's my Mahindra pickup?

I always forget Mazda makes diesel engines. Could be interesting if it ever happens in the US.

Now that they know that VW was cheating to get good numbers without DEF and still pass emissions, are they going to get off their high horse and use Urea Injection?

drdisque wrote: Now that they know that VW was cheating to get good numbers without DEF and still pass emissions, are they going to get off their high horse and use Urea Injection?

I don't think they were on a "high horse" as much as they were committed to finding out how to get away without it, since it appeared at the time like VW had no trouble doing so and VW single-handedly dominated the diesel passenger car market here. Now that we know what we know and even GM is rolling out the passenger car diesels with urea injection, I would bet Mazda is much less opposed to the idea.

drdisque wrote: Now that they know that VW was cheating to get good numbers without DEF and still pass emissions, are they going to get off their high horse and use Urea Injection?

It's a cost thing. Other than people who specifically want diesel vehicles, they are really hard to sell.

What's kind of funny about it- the technical alternative to diesel has been turbo direct injection, which Mazda was one of the first OEM's with that.

But for most consumers, they look at overall cost of the vehicle, so the premium to make diesels clean is quite high, and the advancement of DI engines has really made that cost difference even tougher to swallow. That's exactly why the carrot of non-urea injection diesel is still there. Even better if someone can figure out how to not put in so many items on the engine directly to lower emissions- so that it's done 100% with after treatment. HUGE cost savings doing that, HUGE FE improvements doing that, too.

drdisque wrote: Now that they know that VW was cheating to get good numbers without DEF and still pass emissions, are they going to get off their high horse and use Urea Injection?

As Alfa mentioned, and he's really the authority here, that's really the ultimate piece de resistance for any company but it is a difficult sell in light of the recent DI improvements.

Obviously in light of the VW scandal it explains why they were the only one to do it. I actually wonder if VW didn't poison the well though sending diesels back to their 1980s noisy, stinky, polluter status in the public's mind.

Mazda has dumped a ton of money on R&D for bringing diesels into the US market. Maybe they'll make it happen!

Link

Mazda is remaining tight-lipped, but a new report claims the automaker will debut a diesel-powered CX-5 crossover in the U.S. next year, followed by a oil-burning Mazda 6.

If true, it means Mazda’s years-long effort to bring its overseas powerplants to North America were not in vain.

According to the Nikkei Asian Review, sources close to the matter claim Mazda will introduce the vehicles next year, with the CX-5 bowing first. An updated gasoline-powered CX-5 appears first, next spring, with the diesel variant likely to appear in the summer.

After several pushbacks in the launch date, Mazda has previously confirmed to TTAC that its diesels are still U.S.-bound. The automaker feels there’s still a market for the fuel, despite gaining an unfriendly reputation in the wake of Volkswagen’s emissions scandal.

Jacob Brown, product communications specialist at Mazda, said the automaker “can’t confirm any speculation one way or the other.”

The report claims we’ll learn more from Mazda at this week’s Los Angeles Auto Show. That’s where the automaker will unveil its redesigned 2017 CX-5 (see a teaser here).

The diesel powerplant would be a version of the Skyactiv-D 2.2-liter two-stage turbodiesel already available in Japan and Europe in two power outputs. The automaker’s next-generation Skyactiv gas and diesel engines are already in development. Past attempts to bring the diesel to the U.S. fell flat when the engines failed to make appropriate power after conforming to emissions standards.