bigbrainonbrad
bigbrainonbrad Reader
1/2/12 4:50 p.m.

I'm looking to install a lc-1 on my 91 miata running mspnp tomorrow. I am planning to run the main power line to the alternator with a 5 amp fuse inline, ground to the block where I ran a fresh ecu ground to. My specific question is where to hook the turn on lead. From what I understand it needs to be a source that has +12 volts while cranking. Instead of prodding around with a meter, I imagine someone on here already knows a good source to tap. Thanks in advance.

unevolved
unevolved Dork
1/2/12 5:24 p.m.

I've run electronic hourmeters off of the ignition coil (+), but I'd imagine that might be too noisy for the finicky Innovate stuff.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/12 5:47 p.m.

If the car doesn't have ABS, there's a hot connector where the fuse would go in the box under the hood.

Never mind, I just realized that's b+ - at least, I'm pretty sure it is. You need switched. is the blue connector by the drivers headlight hot while cranking?

chaparral
chaparral GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/2/12 6:38 p.m.

Miata headlights shut off during cranking. Maybe the wire to the relay that controls the lights-off-during-cranking function?

I don't think there's anywhere on the car that gets regulated 12v during cranking with the possible exception of the factory ECU power input. You'll get switched B+ from the starter solenoid wire during cranking - will that do.

peter
peter Reader
1/2/12 7:19 p.m.

For my LC-1, I bought a O2 sensor pigtail from FM salvage and used the power/ground connectors from that. I didn't have great results (the contraption stopped working right), so you might ask the smarter folks around here if that wire can provide the current necessary to run the LC-1, but that was the solution I came up with. Also provides an easy way to send the WBO2 sensor signal back towards the cockpit (if your wiring harness at the CPU is so arranged)

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/12 7:25 p.m.

The logic for circuits that lose power during cranking is in the ignition switch, not a relay. I'll check a diagram at work tomorrow.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/2/12 8:19 p.m.

Tell me about why the lc-1 needs 12v while cranking? It's not reading anything at that point, it's still in warm up mode.

I'm pretty sure i just powered mine off the cig lighter circuit. It doesn't take much power at all. I really don't think it matters if it's interrupted in cranking. Mine is.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/2/12 8:30 p.m.
Keith wrote: You need switched. is the blue connector by the drivers headlight hot while cranking?

The blue plug is hot anytime that the ignition is on.

bigbrainonbrad
bigbrainonbrad Reader
1/2/12 8:40 p.m.

On a related note, I want to install under the hood for ease of connections and what not. Is this something that should be inside the cabin? If so, where is a good place to get the O2 sensor and wire through the body?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/2/12 8:53 p.m.
bigbrainonbrad wrote: On a related note, I want to install under the hood for ease of connections and what not. Is this something that should be inside the cabin? If so, where is a good place to get the O2 sensor and wire through the body?

The controller is made to stay under the hood. It's fine.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/15/12 12:15 p.m.

Did you ever find a wire to tap for +12v while cranking? I'm working on the wiring for my MTX-L and would like to have it on while cranking so it is working after it starts rather than taking 20-30seconds to start reading.

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