Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/12/20 11:34 p.m.

Anyone have some dimensions for the bmw n52? I got a 62 Midget shell and would love to see if this can slot in. Otherwise, 2.0 mzr. 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/13/20 10:22 p.m.

In reply to Teh E36 M3 :

I can get some tomorrow if it's not raining.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/14/20 12:30 a.m.

Oh man thank you. Haven't heard peep and I'm itching to move forward. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/14/20 12:31 a.m.

Just make sure the height dimension is less than 24" and length less than 30" ok?

Haha  

 

mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
11/14/20 3:37 p.m.

Well it's going to be close ... 06 330i with n52

 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/14/20 9:43 p.m.

Dammit, I forgot. I'll check my 07 525xi tomorrow if it's not raining 

wspohn
wspohn Dork
11/15/20 10:59 a.m.

I'd look at the 4 cylinder options that pose fewer packaging challenges.  Either the BMW 4 cylinders, Volvo 5 cylinders, or GM Ecotec (NA or turbo).  Or if you like rpm, an S2000 engine.

A Midget would require a pretty goofy looking bonnet hump to clear the front of the N52, I would think.

But never say anything is impossible - have you seen this one that someone managed to shoehorn a Jag straight 6 into (heaven knows what is left of the Midget chassis).

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
11/15/20 11:02 a.m.
mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
11/15/20 1:52 p.m.

I can take more careful measurement if you like... This was a quick and easy check.  Let me know if you want anything more precise or specific.  What i measured was firewall to the front at 29 inches, crossmember subframe up about 24 inches,  and widest parts of manifold to manifold about 23 inches

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/15/20 10:41 p.m.

The jag sprite was what gave me the bad bad idea to even look. 
I posted in the stalker thread and on his thread on locostusa but haven't seen anything in a couple days. 
 

thank you thank you for the measurements. I think the width is going to kill it. The angle may make the height ok but I think that the overall width might kill it. I'll take some closer looks with your measurements and get back to you all. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/15/20 10:43 p.m.

Btw - the other plan is mzr 2.0. It looks like it will fit fine. The sweet six soundtrack will be missed though. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/15/20 10:48 p.m.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/15/20 10:53 p.m.

So I can and plan to take out the heater shelf which sits next to the firewall. That's why I can do 30" fore and aft. Vertically I have 23" from bottom of the frame rail to the hood. I can get a little more with some very minor pan mods or a bash guard below the rail. Side to side I can clearance the top of the footwell with zero passenger impact. 
 

this is way too close to call. 

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
11/16/20 6:31 p.m.

In reply to Teh E36 M3 :

A Jag V12 is the same length as the Six cylinder. It's only 22 inches wide at the exhaust manifold, 26 inches high ( including either the carb manifold or the FI manifold  )  and 26 inches tall  

plus it's 30 pounds lighter than the 6 cylinder used  

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
11/16/20 6:32 p.m.

In case you think it's never going to fit, I've got plans to make a A MGTD and use a Jaguar V12 and suspension 

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
11/17/20 7:56 a.m.

French, I saw your name and knew exactly what I would find in this thread...

Driven5
Driven5 UltraDork
11/19/20 1:25 p.m.

What transmission would you use with the N52? Factory BMW setup? How wide is the tunnel back where the bellhousing would be located?

clshore
clshore Reader
11/19/20 7:02 p.m.

Oh, just go ahead and put an LS into it.

There used to be a Spridget with Chevy Small block that ran in South Florida SCCA (ASR) and ACALAM races.

You couldn't tell from the outside.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/19/20 7:55 p.m.

Oh Mr Frenchy- awesome idea but I'm not *that* crazy. I picked this up yesterday for a really good price. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/19/20 7:56 p.m.

I'd have gone bmw n52 whatever they hung from the back of it. A little bit of a long shot and really- with some work I could have gotten it in but the electronics and certain peculiarities of that engine scared me off. The mzr/duratec is light and sorted. And will be a big enough pain in the ass to make work. 

mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
11/20/20 8:50 a.m.

Nice.  Smart choice.  Lets see the build thread...

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
11/21/20 9:21 a.m.

In reply to Teh E36 M3 :

You are right,  it's probably a much easier install. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
11/21/20 10:58 a.m.

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