AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/7/24 3:20 p.m.

I need help. I bought this manifold and neither the company I bought it from nor the manufacturer can tell me what size fitting I need for the threaded hole intended for the brake booster. They said 3/8" was too small so it may be 1/2" BSP or NPTF. Nothing I can find at the usual spots fits. Of course the big box stores don't carry British pipe thread.

Here's the hole. The closest I can get with my thread gauges is metric 1.5.

To what would be the outside of the threads on a fitting at the top of the hole measures just about 7/8 of an inch or about 22.4 MM

I cannot tell whether or not it's tapered but the inside measures .8155 in or 20.72 MM

Does this seem to be M22 x 1.5? 

Brotus7
Brotus7 Dork
7/7/24 4:31 p.m.

What's it go on? 15/16 Witworth if it's for something old and British?

JBinMD
JBinMD Reader
7/7/24 5:01 p.m.

If you could tell us who the manufacturer is and the year/make/model/engine it is going on then perhaps someone here is familiar with it and can help.  
 

To determine if the hole is tapered see if you can find a socket that fits in the top of the hole but gets tight lower down.  

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
7/7/24 5:34 p.m.

Is this for the Healey or the BMW? If Healey it is BSP, and Pegasus is your best bet if it is not available from Moths. Original BMC was a banjo and banjo bolt even for a hose.

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/7/24 6:50 p.m.

This goes on the BMW. Mounts dual DCOEs to a BMW M10 engine.

I bought it from Eurocarb/Dellorto and it the only branding anywhere is on the hardware bag which is Webcon.

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
7/7/24 7:22 p.m.

Doesn't one of the BSP/NPT match? Like 1/2" thread is the same?

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
7/7/24 7:42 p.m.
Brotus7 said:

What's it go on? 15/16 Witworth if it's for something old and British?

Sir Joseph had some odd engineering thoughts on threads but, but I don't think his standard included pipe threads. I would imagine that is a tapered pipe thread, of some flavor. 

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/7/24 8:04 p.m.

7/8 orb?

No Time
No Time UberDork
7/7/24 8:26 p.m.

Maybe 7/8-20 thread?

Male plug

02Pilot
02Pilot PowerDork
7/7/24 8:45 p.m.

This is the stock 2002 part, p/n 34331102538. The sealing ring is 07119963355, which is listed as "A22X27-AL"; there is no listing for the thread that I can find. No idea if it will fit, but that's what I'd try first.

Edit: Photo suggests thread is not tapered.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
7/7/24 8:55 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

BSP, British Standard Pipe, has nothing to do with the Prince of Darkness, and there are both straight and tapered BSP threads. The Germans never had a tapered pipe standard. In fact there is not yet any Metric taper pipe thread standard...Give em time....

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/7/24 10:07 p.m.

1.5mm is really close to 16tpi, not 20.

 

I wouldn't doubt that it's 22x1.5.

 

Hmm..

 

Summit lists a lot of AN adaptors... and when doing a general search for M22x1.5, also a GM transfer case plug.  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-89059626#overview

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/8/24 8:43 a.m.

In reply to 02Pilot :

Man, I never even considered that this would be made to accept a factory BMW fitting. That's definitely the bugger. I did order an M22 x 1.5 to AN6 fitting that will be here today and from the bit of information I have been able to dig up on that it seems to be M22... We'll see. 

Thanks everyone. 

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
7/8/24 10:32 a.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

Joseph Lucas  was a few years younger than Sir Joseph Whitworth, and is only a prince in jokes. Not sure what the official designation of Sir means to the Britt's, but we have a couple ex-pats that would know. 
No one mentioned random electrical gremlins in a "thread" about "threads" cheeky

Yes, there are many straight thread pipe fittings (usually sealed by an o-ring or washer) as well as tapered. Without having the part in hand, I thought I saw tapered. But NoTime and O2Pilot looked closer!

Witworth (officially started by a Joesph with a "Sir") thread standard is not related to BSP, or any other sealing type thread, was my only point. (It's definitely not 15/16 Withworth)

Sorry I confused some people, but in context of "threads", different "Joe's"

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/9/24 8:59 a.m.

It is indeed M22 x 1.5

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
7/9/24 9:02 a.m.
03Panther said:

In reply to TurnerX19 :

Joseph Lucas  was a few years younger than Sir Joseph Whitworth, and is only a prince in jokes. Not sure what the official designation of Sir means to the Britt's, but we have a couple ex-pats that would know. 
No one mentioned random electrical gremlins in a "thread" about "threads" cheeky

Yes, there are many straight thread pipe fittings (usually sealed by an o-ring or washer) as well as tapered. Without having the part in hand, I thought I saw tapered. But NoTime and O2Pilot looked closer!

Witworth (officially started by a Joesph with a "Sir") thread standard is not related to BSP, or any other sealing type thread, was my only point. (It's definitely not 15/16 Withworth)

Sorry I confused some people, but in context of "threads", different "Joe's"

Sir means they have been knighted. 

RacingComputers
RacingComputers GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/9/24 11:54 a.m.

A Knight of the Realm

 

 

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
7/9/24 12:01 p.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

That was my assumption, but was not positive. So, a Knighted Sir, would trump a Prince of Darkness (that wasn't really a prince?) 

They were both genius level in the mid 1800, despite the common jokes!

iansane
iansane GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/9/24 12:01 p.m.

In reply to AxeHealey :

You put an oring on that?

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