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Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 7:16 a.m.

While looking at pictures of engines, this came up.

 

 

I am very, very interested in that transmission.  It looks like it has a second shifter location so it can be dropped right in to an RX-2/3/4/5 and series 1 RX-7.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
10/5/19 7:47 a.m.

I’m guessing Beta. Cam cover bolts are offset. Oil cap in back side and coil pack on trans side of cam cover. 

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
10/5/19 8:35 a.m.

How does the electric guitar body impact performance of this engine?

ChasH
ChasH Reader
10/5/19 8:42 a.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

Lots of these transmissions around with the shifter in a number of locations. Since it's a Mazda (Miata) as shown, the bolt pattern at the engine interface is different from a rotary engine. The RX-7 trans looks similar and will bolt right up to '74 and later rotary engines. Earlier rotaries had had a different engine bolt pattern. This trans was also used in Mazda (and Ford) light trucks and the RWD 626.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 8:51 a.m.
bobzilla said:

I’m guessing Beta. Cam cover bolts are offset. Oil cap in back side and coil pack on trans side of cam cover. 

Damn Bob, I think this one looks the closest so far. I’ll let you know if you’re the winner! I’m also embarrassed that I didn’t remember/think of the Beta, having absolutely thrashed on one for ~100k.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 9:04 a.m.
ChasH said:

In reply to Knurled. :

Lots of these transmissions around with the shifter in a number of locations. Since it's a Mazda (Miata) as shown, the bolt pattern at the engine interface is different from a rotary engine. The RX-7 trans looks similar and will bolt right up to '74 and later rotary engines. Earlier rotaries had had a different engine bolt pattern. This trans was also used in Mazda (and Ford) light trucks and the RWD 626.

I am quite cognizant of the different Type M transmissions, I was just never aware that Mazda made a remote-tower tailhousing that also had that second shifter location.  It's a shame that the speedo gear is on the wrong side.

Saron81
Saron81 Reader
10/5/19 9:11 a.m.
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to iceracer :

The intake is on the front, I’m pretty sure?

Zetec has the exhaust at front, Duratec has the exhaust in the rear. 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 Dork
10/5/19 9:29 a.m.

I love RWD cars in general, and Volvos, so I am dubious about FWD converting a 122. Seems a bad idea, but I would like to see picturescrying

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 9:54 a.m.

In reply to Saron81 :

It gets tricky, as I remembered while I was playing with GIS this morning.  North America only ever got one flavor of Zetec, the one loosely based on CVH architecture.  There's at least one other flavor of Zetec, maybe two or three, that are like "small block fours" (maybe Kent based or something?) that have the manifolding reversed like a Duratec.  Or, in retrospect, like practically every European designed four cylinder engine...

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 10:03 a.m.

And Bob is the winner!!!

A Hyundai Beta sure seems like a bizarre swap into a Volvo 122, but that may be the exact reason it was chosen?

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 10:06 a.m.

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/5/19 10:20 a.m.

Suzuki G-series

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
10/5/19 12:04 p.m.

One look at that picture and I knew. Honestly the beta is a solid choice if you’re not looking for massive power. Great midrange, will rev pas 6k, no egr or extraneous emissions bits to figure in. Just a harness and ecu power and ground. Done. 

Also you had an alpha. The accent 1.6 Dohc was still alpha. 

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
10/5/19 6:17 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett :

Nope.  Exhaust is in front, intake in the rear.   I had a ZX2SR.

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
10/5/19 6:28 p.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

exactly why I suggested the Zetec.  Fits a lot of the description.  timing belt with plastic covers etc.

ChasH
ChasH Reader
10/5/19 7:11 p.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

OK, but it's not a drop in many Mazda cars.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
10/5/19 7:17 p.m.

Liquor in the front, poker in the rear?

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/5/19 7:54 p.m.

Is it out of this?

 

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