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Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/10/25 8:08 a.m.
CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
1/10/25 9:15 a.m.

Yeah I remember seeing that Alfa around when I was living in Spain 20 years ago. So sweet!

Oldboy Speedwell
Oldboy Speedwell Reader
1/10/25 9:56 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

https://youtu.be/kP5E5SvWMLw?si=7JvQCnOGvrvwF0w7


ohhh man.  We likely. 

fun video!

i have long been taunted by British auto journalists with their overly enthusiastic praise of Purr-Jo hot hatches, i've read so many articles of glowing praise which has elevated it my mind to legend status, so appealing with basic rawness, featherweight, & nat asp purity.

i really need to drive one and experience them for myself, i sorta fear a never meet your heroes moment, but ultimately i think i'd be enthralled in deep love because they seem to have created the perfect formula.

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
1/10/25 12:21 p.m.

Yeah, same thoughts here. Well said.

We got NONE of them here. I think you could get a 405 Mi16, also elevated to the stars in my mind. Super rare though.

classicJackets (FS)
classicJackets (FS) SuperDork
1/10/25 12:39 p.m.

This thread got me shopping FBMP and heavily interested in a (large for "hot hatch") X3 with a 6speed manual, AWD, and cinnamon interior for close to challenge price. 
lowering springs look to be cheap, and make it look pretty hot. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/10/25 2:59 p.m.

I just realized all I want is a cheap fast light car that I can bang off the rev limiter everywhere I go.   
 

drop kids off at school. Off revlimiter. 
 

go to church, rev limiter. 
 

drive thru food,   Say it with me. Rev limiter. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/10/25 3:03 p.m.

Why shouldn't I buy this slightly clapped civic. 
 

https://www.facebook.com/share/18ZdNSvWge/?mibextid=wwXIfr

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/10/25 3:32 p.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :

You need to find a nice 8G civic SI sedan. K20, 6 Speed, LSD. Perfect. Hitting the rev limiter on a screaming NA motor is fun. 

EchoTreeSix
EchoTreeSix Reader
1/10/25 3:47 p.m.

In reply to classicJackets (FS) :

Do it. I can't imagine they're not fun to drive.

There's a clean one local.. but it's at a "boutique" dealer for about 3x too much. 

 

classicJackets (FS)
classicJackets (FS) SuperDork
1/10/25 4:01 p.m.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1AanFQSDGz/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

assuming it doesn't suck I think it'll come home with me. Ozone generator if it smells smoky. 
Turns out these are wider than tall as delivered!
 

EchoTreeSix
EchoTreeSix Reader
1/10/25 4:21 p.m.

In reply to classicJackets (FS) :

I like it. Manual SUVs aren't wanted by many of us. Lemme know how it goes, one way or the other!

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
1/10/25 7:05 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

I was talking about a mk2 gti with vr6. The 16v is nice but not bonkers enough. 
 

the srt4 or gobs  was about as close as the americas got for a "murican" hot hatch. 
 

im a 45 year old yobo, come at me. 

Challenge accepted - let's see if I can do better with American hot hatches.

Cosworth Vega:

Compressed rust body with a wicked DOHC injected motor.

Shelby GLHS:

Goes like hell, some more

Ford Focus SVT:

Buick Skyhawk T-Type:

OK, some are more fastback than than the more blocky hot hatches, but the rear glass lifts on all of them.

Oldboy Speedwell
Oldboy Speedwell Reader
1/10/25 7:34 p.m.
bmw88rider said:

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :

You need to find a nice 8G civic SI sedan. K20, 6 Speed, LSD. Perfect. Hitting the rev limiter on a screaming NA motor is fun. 

8G --- is that the FN1/2 hatch version we never got?

i've always liked the way they looked (unsure about triangle exhaust tho) because a bit of Frenchiness to my eye, but apparently they have been maligned & unliked, looks fun enough tho...

 

 

...back when i was in car-buy mode i did have an ep3 hatch on my list but never found one and the few i saw scattered far away from me were max thrashed, so never even got to test drive one. i actually like the Alfaesque shifter position which was a historical throwback nod to N600, but i have read numerous reports of the steering feel to be extremely numbvague --- anybody here with realworld ep3 hatch driving & can add input of personal experience?

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/10/25 8:00 p.m.
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

I believe that clio V6s are now importable...

They certainly are. Drooled over this one at a Donuts and Drip meet here in Portland:

Caperix
Caperix Reader
1/11/25 8:27 a.m.

I find it funny that with most manufacturers dropping the 3 door hatch, Ferrari gave us a buitiful one.  There was one of these at my local home depot awhile back & I spent a good amount of time drooling over it.

Though i am still waiting for the BMW  e81 to hit 25 years

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/11/25 12:09 p.m.
classicJackets (FS) said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/1AanFQSDGz/?mibextid=wwXIfr

assuming it doesn't suck I think it'll come home with me. Ozone generator if it smells smoky. 
Turns out these are wider than tall as delivered!

There appears to be 7 manual inline-six BMW X3 for sale nationwide (via cargurus)

classicJackets (FS)
classicJackets (FS) SuperDork
1/11/25 2:25 p.m.

In reply to OHSCrifle :

Yeah, I bought it this morning! Need to get back and pick it up/bring it home tonight or tomorrow but I have the title and key. 

 

 

not perfect but was decent and cheap

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/11/25 4:34 p.m.

In reply to MadScientistMatt :

Looks like my attempt to write glhs was autocorrected to "gobs". 
 

The svt focus ok. But the other ones are a stretch and I've spent plenty of time with a cosworth Vega.  

Oldboy Speedwell
Oldboy Speedwell Reader
1/13/25 9:07 a.m.

more MINI!

 

here's a GP1 which has been modded a bit and this guy gives an interesting review --- it has an unspecified CatCam but it's most likely the aggro 469 which is top-end profiled...

 

 

...and another sidetrack, it's also fitted with a CAE shifter --- i have long contemplated these because people say they add great rifle-bolt precision & make it even more fun to row thru the gears, altho with a less mentioned caveat of being quite stiff for street use

i have avoided because i'm not too keen on how they look in a daily driver plus you must cut up the console for it to fit, plus the cost of course which is mucho moolah for a shifter, so anybody here have experience with a CAE/Coolerworx/Revin or similar style of this shifter design who can weigh in on merits and/or drawbacks? if so, what say you?

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/13/25 2:57 p.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :

You could get this in the 70s with the 3.8L Buick V6 and a 5-speed. They were reasonably quick and surprisingly fun to drive. 

Finding one now that hasn't been gutted, tubbed, and had a big block stuffed in the front is almost impossible. 

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
1/13/25 3:30 p.m.
 

Finding one now that hasn't been gutted, tubbed, and had a big block stuffed in the front is almost impossible. 

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/13/25 3:33 p.m.

In reply to MadScientistMatt :

It is if you have visions of this...

Monza-Racer-Solo-2

84FSP
84FSP PowerDork
1/13/25 3:34 p.m.
thatsnowinnebago said:
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

I believe that clio V6s are now importable...

They certainly are. Drooled over this one at a Donuts and Drip meet here in Portland:

Beat me to it sir!  I missed a really reasonably priced one in Canada last year.  Think it was like 22K CAD so under 20K USD at that point.  Just really feel like they made a point of making a nasty hatch that wasn't useful, but was awesome.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/13/25 3:55 p.m.
MadScientistMatt said:
Fueled by Caffeine said:

I was talking about a mk2 gti with vr6. The 16v is nice but not bonkers enough. 
 

the srt4 or gobs  was about as close as the americas got for a "murican" hot hatch. 
 

im a 45 year old yobo, come at me. 

Challenge accepted - let's see if I can do better with American hot hatches.

 

Shelby GLHS:

Goes like hell, some more

 

The GLHS is definitive proof that Americans can indeed make a hot hatch. It checks every box you can think of.

Friend of mine's family had the normal version with a 2.2 in it (I think). I kept trying to convince him to take the bumpers off so it would look cool.

84FSP
84FSP PowerDork
1/13/25 4:06 p.m.

I'd also add the Focus RS and the Golf R to the super rowdy hot hatch list.  Both are amazing.

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