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irish44j (Forum Supporter)
irish44j (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/24/22 8:51 p.m.

Good timing. A guy at work got an R1T and I walk past it every day and was just wondering today "how well it does offroad"

That amount of weight is pretty crazy. That's slightly more than my 5.7 Sequoia, which feels extremely huge and heavy off-road (though is actually extremely capable). 

Then again, I was just commenting to a buddy that the BMW i4 M50 sedan he's about to buy weighs approximately as much as BOTH of my e30s combined lol. EV weight....

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/24/22 9:29 p.m.

I have a theory that EVs don't suffer from weight as much as ICE vehicles thanks to regen. I consider my 7700 lb diesel truck to be very heavy and I drive accordingly. Not many people do because EVs hide their mass so well. Offroad, though, it's hard to escape that weight. I can't imagine my truck being anywhere near this competent offroad but I've never actually tried it.

Interestingly, our Tesla Model 3 dual motor weighs within 100 lbs of our E39 M5 - and I think the new ones with structural batteries might be lighter. So some of it comes down to design priorities.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/24/22 10:12 p.m.

I hear people complain about the price of the Rivian, and certainly as someone who would love to own one, I wish that it was under $50K, but honestly I do not feel that it's overpriced. Better build quality than the Tesla, abundant power and a cool feature list make it seem a better value than the X and S, and maybe even the Y, which really shouldn't be $20K more than the 3. They're having some financial issues right now, but I imagine that the Amazon contract will help with that.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/25/22 5:05 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

It was fun reading the instructor as things got a little dodgy. He was very calm and got calmer as things were slowly going wrong. It's like instructing on track but in slow motion. I did notice that Bill's Range Rover might have some slightly modified side panels but a pristine roof, so apparently keeping things the right way up is a core competency. But you would not want to be a nervous person in his place.

I've yet to even put a car on it's side and I'm cool as a cucumber. Where should I send my application?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/25/22 11:13 p.m.

A careful reader will see web addresses on the side of Bill's vehicles :) I know he's looking for another local instructor. 

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/26/22 12:22 a.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Careful reading was not one of the criteria blush

ZOO (Forum Supporter)
ZOO (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/26/22 8:36 a.m.

Total aside -- but I would love to take a course like this.  I am worried it would be a slippery slope (hardy, har, har) though and that I'd end up with some dedicated off-roader.  I don't really need ANOTHER hobby.

 

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