foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
12/18/13 6:44 p.m.

There should be a law that says no oil jug can be made in the same shape or color as an antifreeze jug.

That way distracted people who grab the jug of antifreeze to top of their trucks radiator won't accidentally dump about half a cup of engine oil in there before they realize they grabbed the wrong jug. ARG!

I'm going to leave it in there, and rationalize it as lubricating my water pump.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
12/18/13 6:45 p.m.

Now if only antifreeze still tasted good- you could take a swig and tell right away.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/18/13 7:00 p.m.

That happened to me one night. I had a car that used more oil and coolant than gas, so I always had one gallon of each in the trunk.

It took me a whole day to flush the cooling system.

old_
old_ Reader
12/18/13 7:01 p.m.
foxtrapper wrote: There should be a law that says no oil jug can be made in the same shape or color as an antifreeze jug. That way distracted people who grab the jug of antifreeze to top of their trucks radiator won't accidentally dump about half a cup of engine oil in there before they realize they grabbed the wrong jug. ARG! I'm going to leave it in there, and rationalize it as lubricating my water pump.

Don't leave it in there! I did the exact same thing about a month ago after fixing a small coolant leak. I only got about a tablespoon in before I realized what was going on. I left it in thinking it wouldn't hurt. Checked the coolant again recently and there was a bunch of white grease type stuff (looked like vaseline) on the inside of the rad cap. I assume the oil reacted with the coolant and coated everything with the crap.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
12/18/13 7:06 p.m.
old_ wrote:
foxtrapper wrote: There should be a law that says no oil jug can be made in the same shape or color as an antifreeze jug. That way distracted people who grab the jug of antifreeze to top of their trucks radiator won't accidentally dump about half a cup of engine oil in there before they realize they grabbed the wrong jug. ARG! I'm going to leave it in there, and rationalize it as lubricating my water pump.
Don't leave it in there! I did the exact same thing about a month ago after fixing a small coolant leak. I only got about a tablespoon in before I realized what was going on. I left it in thinking it wouldn't hurt. Checked the coolant again recently and there was a bunch of white grease type stuff (looked like vaseline) on the inside of the rad cap. I assume the oil reacted with the coolant and coated everything with the crap.

Yeah, milkshake is bad juju.... you DEFINITELY don't want it in your oil pan.

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/18/13 7:14 p.m.

I keep my large fluid jugs in two different places in the garage for just this reason.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UberDork
12/18/13 7:28 p.m.

I'll often read the label, but maybe thats just me...

Helpful, eh?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
12/18/13 7:32 p.m.

There should be a law against head boinks. Hang in there, you're doing really well, even with setbacks and minor issues. And at least the windshield survived unscathed this time.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
12/18/13 8:08 p.m.

I can't say I've done something just as ignorant, but I use Prestone in the yellow jug so i don't confuse it with oil.

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Dork
12/18/13 8:23 p.m.

This is why I dislike working on cars.

Everything I do takes way longer than it should because I have to keep double and triple checking things in order to protect myself against my own idiocy.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
12/18/13 8:30 p.m.

Of all the bone-headed E36 M3 I've done, I've never pulled this one. Don't take that as a slam. I've done WAY more bone-headed E36 M3 than that!

wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
12/18/13 8:56 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: I can't say I've done something just as ignorant, but I use Prestone in the yellow jug so i don't confuse it with oil.

good thing you don't use Pennzoil

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
12/18/13 9:08 p.m.

Oh, I figure the white goo will lubricate all the chunky goo in the cap. Saponification, right? It's cold, I'm ignoring it until spring or such.

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
12/18/13 9:35 p.m.

you didn't notice that the "antifreeze" was dark and poured like syrup?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/18/13 11:08 p.m.

Autozone puts everything that is there house brand in orange containers. Oil antifreez containers look exactly tge same.

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
12/19/13 1:32 a.m.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/19/13 1:53 a.m.

I remember a reading a forum post from someone who'd put a 22oz container of "NOS" brand octane booster in his car and now it was running very badly. The thread went on for a while, then someone pointed out that the "NOS" brand octane booster came in 16 oz containers, but the "NOS" brand energy drink came in 22 oz ones...

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
12/19/13 2:37 a.m.

In reply to foxtrapper:

Your water pump bearings thank you......

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
12/19/13 4:29 a.m.
codrus wrote: I remember a reading a forum post from someone who'd put a 22oz container of "NOS" brand octane booster in his car and now it was running very badly. The thread went on for a while, then someone pointed out that the "NOS" brand octane booster came in 16 oz containers, but the "NOS" brand energy drink came in 22 oz ones...

it was a crotch rocket of some sort..

44Dwarf
44Dwarf SuperDork
12/19/13 6:30 a.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to foxtrapper: Your water pump bearings thank you......

No your water pump bearing will never see the oil unless the seal is leaking in that case there's no hope for them any way.

Oil will severely lower the boiling point and worse it leads to hot spots in the system like around the exhaust valve pockets due to the thin layer of oil insulating the metal from the water. Get it out of there quick and be sure to flush with a good cleaner at least twice before a final flush and refill with 50/50 mix. Also the heater will not work as well due to same insulation factor.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
12/19/13 7:31 a.m.
wbjones wrote:
spitfirebill wrote: I can't say I've done something just as ignorant, but I use Prestone in the yellow jug so i don't confuse it with oil.
good thing you don't use Pennzoil

LOL. I quit using Pennzoil long, long ago. But that was when antifreeze came in one gallon metal cans and there were no gallon jugs of oil.

freestyle
freestyle New Reader
12/19/13 7:41 a.m.

Back in my schoolin' days of package design, the professor brought up the old story of a non-English reader confusing Comet cleaner with parmesan cheese. Not sure how true. But I personally think it's a part of the packaging designer's/company's responsibility to make them distinct.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
12/19/13 7:48 a.m.

I was joking about lubricating the water pump.

Oil has a substantially higher boiling point than either water, glycol, or the mixture of water and glycol. Oil is not miscible with either water, glycol, or the mixture of water and glycol, therefore it will not change the properties of them.

Oil has a lower level of heat transfer than water, but it is not an insulator, it is a conductor. It is typically the sole thermal conductor of heat away from the pistons (separate from the transfer of thermal heat to work via motion of the piston). The conductivity and the high boiling temperature is largely why oil is the preferred coolant for ignition coils and power transformers.

Oil will have a deleterious effect on rubber components, such as the hoses. It is just as bad on the inside or a rubber hose as it is on the outside. However, the resulting degradation is not instantaneous or inherently catastrophic. As many a greasy but functional radiator hose has shown.

Forget not, at the most half a cup of oil was introduced into my cooling system. Probably a good bit less. I noticed at the first glug that the color and viscosity was wrong, by the second glug I had tipped the jug back up, at first wondering if this was unmixed glycol (thicker viscosity) or perhaps used (dirty color). Then realizing it was actually oil.

While I agree with the preference of having a clean cooling system and uncontaminated coolant, I am not overly concerned that this engine will self destruct shortly because of the addition of a minor amount of oil. If that truly were the case, a blown head gasket would result in total destruction of engines, and old cars with skanky cooling systems would not be running.

Not at all to be confused with the introduction of ethylene glycol into the crankcase of an engine. That very much can do bad things, particularly to babbitt bearing surfaces.

None the less, on a nice warm day, I do plan on flushing the system. Today, with snow on the ground, a frozen driveway, and other things to do, I will let it go for a while longer.

miatame
miatame HalfDork
12/19/13 8:05 a.m.

Oh, so YOU'RE the reason we can't have SuperBlue anymore!

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/19/13 8:19 a.m.

and we get warnings about not drinking paint

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