pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
6/18/18 5:20 a.m.

Here is my boat.

 

It is a 1991 Well Craft Eclipse 20 foot inboard.  I am the second owner.  My wife's father bought it new in 1991 and I bought it from him approximately 6 years ago.  The 4.3 liter mercruiser engine and outdrive were replaced with new ones in 2007.

In 2015 i redid the carpet and seats.  

I am no longer feeling the 90's teal and would like to repaint the teal to a gray, black or dark blue.  What has worked for you guys in the past?  Any tips would be appreciated.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
6/18/18 5:30 a.m.

I've read the roll-and-tip method for one part topside paint and decided I'd rather buff out the glass on mine. FWIW I've read some accounts of getting good results using standard Rustoleum combined with the hardener that Tractor Supply sellsn but I haven't tried it myself. Some googling should find the method on it.

I like the teal. Gray and white looks like every other boat. Buff that thing up and it's a party on the water.

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
6/18/18 6:37 a.m.

Considering the work it is going to take and the $$$ to do it properly, I would stay in love with the teal.

 

First thing is to decide if going paint or gel-coat? 

 

"Awlgrip" is still the go-to product for this if you are going to go with a paint system.  

 

 

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/18 6:38 a.m.

I've had pretty good luck with Brightside polyurethanes from Interlux but I've never done the exterior of a hull with them. 

Interlux is pretty much the name in boat paints. Not very cheap though. 

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/18 6:58 a.m.

marine paints ARE expensive, and with good reason. Salt Water is the harshest place for anything to be, You get salt water, wind, waves, and the sun all working hard to destroy your paint. While dark blue would look good on that boat, that turquoise is molded into the boat, making it much stronger than any paint. As long as it is not too badly faded, scratched, or the gelcoat has not cracked, I would leave it. That colour is distinctive and mostly maintenance free compared to paint

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/18 7:06 a.m.

In reply to pimpm3 :

Keep the teal, add some fuscia accents to make it really pop. 

pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
6/18/18 7:36 a.m.

That's as good as it gets buffing wise.  I have tried multiple times to bring it back but it still looks dull. 

Its a good boat and I figured painting it would bring the exterior up to snuff compared with the nice interior and newer engine.  What about vinyl, is that a viable option?

SaltyDog
SaltyDog Reader
6/18/18 7:49 a.m.


 

I've got it's little sister in my driveway.

1992 186 Eclipse. The maroon on mine was very faded and chalky when I bought it in '08.

Wet sanding and buffing has brought it back very nicely. Now I just hit it with Maguire's Cleaner Wax and it's good to go.

It won't help you like the teal any better, but you should be able to wet sand with 1200 or 1000, buff and wax and look as good as new.

IMO, boats that have been painted always look like boats that have been painted. I think you would end up regretting painting over the teal.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/18 10:17 a.m.
pimpm3 said:

That's as good as it gets buffing wise.  I have tried multiple times to bring it back but it still looks dull. 

Its a good boat and I figured painting it would bring the exterior up to snuff compared with the nice interior and newer engine.  What about vinyl, is that a viable option?

I would look into somebody doing vinyl over the turquoise. If it fails after a year or two, you are only out a small amount of money compared to the work and cost of marine paint

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
6/18/18 10:38 a.m.

Vinyl warp is becoming very popular in boating.  Google will bring you many samples.  You could just do vinyl over the teal or do the whole side.  

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
6/18/18 10:42 a.m.

If you do vinyl, make sure you buy the highest end stuff you can, either the top of the 3M line or Oracal 9500 type. Believe me when I say that old, cracked vinyl will be much worse to get off than the the work of sanding and buffing.

My boat is chocolate brown (hey, it's from '73, it was cool then) and the sides are HEAVILY chalked. I've just run some test patches with a 6" electric DA. I'll start with 800 wet, then 1200 wet, then 2 grades of paste on a foam pad. In about 10 minutes I turned about 6 sq ft into a brown mirror this weekend. I should be able to do the whole boat in a weekend and less than a case of beer. I think you'd be amazed what some sanding would do for that teal.

I actually started out above the rub rail with just some "fine" wet/dry sanding sponge blocks followed by buffing it with the DA. You can see the difference it makes:

 

 

Those colors are actually starting to be cool again. I wouldn't be surprised to see values start creeping back up on boats that look like that.

 

 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
6/18/18 10:57 a.m.
NermalSnert
NermalSnert New Reader
6/18/18 10:59 a.m.

I brought the paint back on a boat like that not long ago. After much experimenting, Soft Scrub did the trick followed by waxing. I like the teal :)

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/18/18 11:16 a.m.

I was going to suggest vinyl as well. If you look at the newer Yamaha boats, all the graphics are stickers. 

pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
6/18/18 11:22 a.m.

I haven't tried to wet sand it just buffing.  It can't hurt to try and wet sand a section.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
6/18/18 11:42 a.m.

Don't get any of the paint on your hootus. 

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
6/18/18 12:24 p.m.
pimpm3 said:

I haven't tried to wet sand it just buffing.  It can't hurt to try and wet sand a section.

This is a great project for child labor. It's hard to hurt the gelcoat using that fine a grit by hand. If you wanna ride the boat, ya gotta sand the boat.

8valve
8valve Reader
6/18/18 12:30 p.m.
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to pimpm3 :

Keep the teal, add some fuscia accents to make it really pop. 

This. Teal boat would be so good with some poppin 1990 accent stripes. 

stylngle2003
stylngle2003 GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/18 1:57 p.m.

or pink

SaltyDog
SaltyDog HalfDork
6/28/18 9:03 a.m.

Any updates, pimpm3? Itching to see what you came up with. 

pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
6/28/18 10:40 a.m.

Not yet, been catching up on work since returning from the trip.

Hoping to take it out next weekend.

Chillin_The_Most
Chillin_The_Most New Reader
12/8/23 9:30 a.m.

What did you end up doing with your Eclipse? I have been totally restoring the same boat for the past 2 years. I too thought I was tired of the teal but have decided to make myself embrace it. I am currently wet sanding and buffing it out and I am trying to decide what to do about decals and graphics. I want to give it a little more modern look but I haven't found a graphic that will not clash with the white/teal stripes down the sides. I may just go with a more modern Wellcraft decal and emblem, along with a silver metal flake 3/4" boot stripe.

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