I remember using the ones on the left... a superb tire in its day....
I remember using the ones on the left... a superb tire in its day....
wbjones wrote: they're like R-comps with grooves cut in them(in my case 205-50-15's on 7 1/2" rims in a 2100# car) back to back a-x's at the same site (Michelin Proving Grounds … AKA "Black Lake) same relative weather conditions … a driver from the host region beat me (a Miata v. my CRX in STS) by a tick over 2 seconds in the first event (I was on last yrs R1R's) … two weeks later I beat him by 1/2 sec on my new Re-71R's … mounted the day before, and driven to the site (~ 100 mi), so that was all the "conditioning" I did to the tires … the following week at a different site, I gaped the class by 2+ sec. (these are the same folk that I've battled with for 5 yrs) only one of them were on this yrs tires the Rival S are also starting to become available … some whispers out there are that they will be even quicker … pic to show wear (this after 9 runs and ~ 600 street miles)
Sweet into! How are they on the street? Rain, noise, etc...
I'm looking to replace my old D1*, so I'd like them to be real world tires. Sort of why I excluded the RS3 and Rivals from my shopping list.
Swank Force One wrote:mazdeuce wrote: Interesting fact: if you tell Discount Tire you are putting the tires under a CTS-V wagon they won't mount them. The load rating isn't high enough."Sorry, did i say CTS-V? I meant Catera."
They're 95 load rated. 1521 lbs per tire. The V is heavy, but it's not THAT heavy. Their computer says the car requires a 99 which is 1709 per tire. I'll have to find a more sympathetic tire shop to flip them half way through One Lap.
fanfoy wrote:wbjones wrote: they're like R-comps with grooves cut in themSweet into! How are they on the street? Rain, noise, etc... I'm looking to replace my old D1*, so I'd like them to be real world tires. Sort of why I excluded the RS3 and Rivals from my shopping list.
haven't driven in the rain yet … noise … it's a straight pipe (well a Cherry Bomp) STS build … tire noise is going to have to be pretty bad for me to notice
David S. Wallens wrote:JG Pasterjak wrote:JG made a funny. Seriously, we realize that some people would like those results asap, so we're kicking around some plans to deliver them. And, of course, you didn't hear any of this from me. Must have been JG again.mazdeuce wrote: But are you going you tell us the results or make us wait for the magazine delay? I'll read the article no matter what, but having the info 6 weeks earlier would be helpful for those of us holding out on ordering.Let me ask my mortgage company.
Tire testing? Is that why so many tires landed on my doorstep this week? I'm supposed to test them? I thought I won a contest.
Andy Hollis wrote:David S. Wallens wrote:Tire testing? Is that why so many tires landed on my doorstep this week? I'm supposed to test them? I thought I won a contest.JG Pasterjak wrote:JG made a funny. Seriously, we realize that some people would like those results asap, so we're kicking around some plans to deliver them. And, of course, you didn't hear any of this from me. Must have been JG again.mazdeuce wrote: But are you going you tell us the results or make us wait for the magazine delay? I'll read the article no matter what, but having the info 6 weeks earlier would be helpful for those of us holding out on ordering.Let me ask my mortgage company.
We still want to see a tire fort.
I'm not sure what Andy is winning, but I know that he IS winning.
Andy Hollis wrote: Tire testing? Is that why so many tires landed on my doorstep this week? I'm supposed to test them? I thought I won a contest.
Love your work, it's my favorite stuff in GRM. Please test on a track. ;)
In reply to fanfoy: I've found my Rivals to be good for road noise, but I only ran them for about 600 miles and 1 autocross. I've drove on cheap all-seasons that howl like a lonely coyote wandering the sandy desert. No one in my region is running these new tires yet.
Dying to mount up the new Rivals but have to finish the Ronal refinish... Looking forward to mounting up some dot legal goodness.
Mr_Clutch42 wrote: In reply to fanfoy: I've found my Rivals to be good for road noise, but I only ran them for about 600 miles and 1 autocross. I've drove on cheap all-seasons that howl like a lonely coyote wandering the sandy desert. No one in my region is running these new tires yet.
what region in NC ? I ran them at the CCR event at Black Lake
I'm with NCR.
gotcha … what are the STC/STS cars running on there ? and I guess no one in Tarheel or Triad are running them yet ?
A friend mounted the RE-71s on his FSP car to DD and rain race while he uses r comps for the serious business. He ran them for a cobweb shaker fun event a couple weeks ago and very nearly took FFTD. I don't know the exact numbers but he reports "I can't get these tires to break loose."
Anybody running the 205s on 15x7 wheels?
they should do fine … the tread width measurement (per Tire Rack) is 7.0"
I have them on my 7 1/2" rims, if for no other reason than they're lighter than my 7" rims … I did fine with the R1R's on both the 7" and the 7 1/2" … even though they are a tiny bit wider than the 205 'Stones
I'm trying to decide what set of 205/50/15 to get for our Lemons 89 Civic. We have had great luck with the Rivals so far but need another set to backup a fairly fresh set of Rivals we already have.
The RE71r is appealing, along with the Rival and Rival S, and the Z2 SS. Looking at tire rack figures for them all though, the tread width varies significantly, from 7.8" for the old Rival, 6.9 for the Rival S, 7.0 for the RE71, and 7.5 for the Z2. Losing 3/4" of tread width is pretty significant. The RE71 also weighs 2lbs more than the Z2, with the rivals in the middle.
Hmmm, choices. The $70 off gift card on the RE71 might be the deciding factor.
I think I would (assuming there are still some in the size you want) get the 2013 dated Rival's from TR .. they're on sale (close out ) now ($88 each)
An update:
I just had my first Auto-X of the season with my newly mounted RE-71R and they are fan berkeleying tastic!
We were only two competitors running them and we placed first and second (I was second) overall by a good margin. They seem to be the tires to beat.
Better be good for them to revive the OEM tires on a Porsche 959.
In reply to fanfoy:
Yup. I sound like a broken record reporting this but the RE-71s are virtual cheater slicks. Just so much faster than the rest of the field it's not even funny.
so far, from the reports I'm reading, the 71R's and the Rival S seem to be about equal … depending on your vehicle, your setup, your driving style
From what I've heard the Rival S takes heat better than the RE-71R, the Rival doesn't fall off when it gets hot, but they are both really good.
I've also heard that …
disclaimer: my last a-x was May 9th
that said I haven't had to spray my 71R's yet (the R1R's would get sprayed even in 50° weather), but the warmest event was only in the 70° range
and I would get faster each run (and FWIW the first run would feel really good)… the tires were never more than warm to my hand … my next scheduled a-x isn't until the middle of this month … I'll take my spray bottle just in case
I wasn't able to drive them as hard as I wanted on One Lap, though I'm not sure track manners on a 4400lb car are really relavent to most of you anyway.
What I can tell you is they have very good road manners and wear. Louder than stock tires on the V but not obnoxiously so. Really good grip whe it's when. A bit like the Z1 Star Spec in that regard, nice progressive break away as long as you don't have standing water. They get skatey once you have appreciable standing water but they track extremely straight doing it. They're absolutely better wet tires than the RS3 V1 that were on there before.
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