z31maniac wrote:
Probably like the woman I used to work with who insisted her autotragic '91 'Vette would stomp my sport bike in a drag race.
One of my favorite 'ex-wife' stories to tell is about beating her in a race- she in her '95 automatic (V6) Camaro and me in my '00 stickshift 4-banger (granted, the DOHC model) Saturn SL2. It's not like she wasn't already pissed off at me anyway.
I guess at least they are on a road course of sorts.......said rednecks need to drive though. The trailer seemed like a PR stunt for Year One and ProTouring builders. With any luck, this might just help the cause of showing there is more than a 1320ft long straight line that you just go as fast as possible down. For that reason alone, I think it is a decent idea......at the same time, it needs to be done properly with equal vehicles.
i don't associate the word "redneck" with cars.. it has more of a "jacked up truck" kinda connotation in my brain... but anytime they get someone with a southern accent on tv, they are labeled as "rednecks".
I don't believe they're real rednecks.......the mullet and third gen ratio seemed off signifigantly. I'm thinking paid actors to simulate the generalized opinion of what a redneck is.
z31maniac wrote:
Probably like the woman I used to work with who insisted her autotragic '91 'Vette would stomp my sport bike in a drag race.
I've owned both a C4 Corvette and a Suzuki GS500 - their "entry level" sportbike. I like to use that to illustrate how sport bike performance is on a totally different planet - a lot of magazine sportbike racers will call a GS500 slow, but it was way faster than the Corvette up to anything you could sanely do on public roads.
The host is one of the guys from the "that thing got a hemi?" commercials from back in the day. Seriously? The cars they're showing as redneck are pretty well done up promods or resto mods. Not like they're taking a stock 69 Chevelle or Nova against a WRX or something. Oh wait, reality show=totally contrived. I guess I'll check it out for the car quotient anyway.
the "that thing got a Hemi?" guy is a pretty well established stand up comedian, so it's not that unusual that he's gotten hisself a hosting gig..
and you know that he was at least the third choice for the spot- behind Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy..
yamaha wrote:
I don't believe they're real rednecks.......the mullet and third gen ratio seemed off signifigantly. I'm thinking paid actors to simulate the generalized opinion of what a redneck is.
Most of the cars on that show cost about the same. (A little more than a new single-wide mobile home.) If that's being a redneck, count me in.
I also don't think they were paid. How hard do you think it is to find cool people with nice cars, willing to volunteer to get featured on a TV series and get a week of driving instruction/production and free food?
novaderrik wrote:
the "that thing got a Hemi?" guy is a pretty well established stand up comedian, so it's not that unusual that he's gotten hisself a hosting gig..
I actually went to one of his shows in April here in Atlanta.
The guy saying "Ya, hick!", is one of our NASA-SE GTS3 drivers. Pretty cool guy.
Am I the only one for whom Jalopnik either works very poorly or not at all?
Looks kinda one sided towards the domestic stuff. I spy cages in most of the domestic cars just in the promo, so I expect to see well prepped U.S. stuff against not as well prepped imports.
Berk, I'll still watch it since nothing else on speed is worth tuning in for (minus a rare road racing event every once in a blue moon).
Around here rednecks drive mid nineties FWD GM cars with missing fenders and windows. Maybe it's different in the city.
Raze
SuperDork
12/7/12 8:00 a.m.
...and here I thought they were going to start airing live broadcasts of Lemons and Chump...
yamaha
Dork
12/7/12 10:08 a.m.
Tyler H wrote:
I also don't think they were paid. How hard do you think it is to find cool people with nice cars, willing to volunteer to get featured on a TV series and get a week of driving instruction/production and free food?
I still stand behind that, because mainly.....I see some of the domestics being built by year one, and others carry the style and flair of the protouring shops.....A modern protouring setup like those to a muscle car can add up to more than 60k, I've personally driven some that looked similar that had over 100k dumped into them. It definitely doesn't look like someone went out, bought a good looking classic muscle car(good chunk of money there), and then only added wheels and tires to it and did this.....these are purpose built cars.
I think you're close on the costs. PT guys go autocrossing and do HPDEs these days. Most of those cars have at least a bar, if not a cage.
The cars I recognize are privately owned.
I applied to be on it, but they filmed during the week, so I would have had to miss work.
Pretty sure the Snot Rocket would have curb stomped most anything they could throw at it at CMP.
yamaha
Dork
12/7/12 11:50 a.m.
In reply to Tyler H:
The important thing here, if this is the case.....I forsee it never taking off. Nobody likes wealthy rednecks......just look at Ted Nugent.
AutoXR
HalfDork
12/7/12 11:51 a.m.
Errr.. so it's new cars vs. High dollar Pro touring cars? The Bandit TA @ the start isn't a cheap car, nor redneck by any strech and I recognize a lot of the others from the pro touring board.
Raze
SuperDork
12/7/12 12:07 p.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote:
...curb stomped...
I know I shouldn't but I really like this description...
Cotton
Dork
12/7/12 12:49 p.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
Probably like the woman I used to work with who insisted her autotragic '91 'Vette would stomp my sport bike in a drag race.
I've owned both a C4 Corvette and a Suzuki GS500 - their "entry level" sportbike. I like to use that to illustrate how sport bike performance is on a totally different planet - a lot of magazine sportbike racers will call a GS500 slow, but it was way faster than the Corvette up to anything you could sanely do on public roads.
GS500s runs mid 14s in the 1/4 and top out a little over 100MPH, so sounds like they would have been relatively close in the 1/4 then the vette would walk away.
Needs more 3rd gens and G bodies.
yamaha wrote:
In reply to Tyler H:
The important thing here, if this is the case.....I forsee it never taking off. Nobody likes wealthy rednecks......just look at Ted Nugent.
people don't like Ted Nugent because he's a loudmouth moron. nothing to do with him being wealthy.
ultraclyde wrote:
Around here rednecks drive mid nineties FWD GM cars with missing fenders and windows. Maybe it's different in the city.
Rednecks (self-proclaimed and otherwise) I've known over the years pretty much all either drive:
pickups (jacked up or not, doesn't matter)
or
exactly what you said.
or
Import tuner cars that are not tastefully modded.
I've known a good deal of country boy/redneck types, and I can't think of any of them that had a high-performance track-setup muscle car, other than one that had a drag-built Mustang (ugly as sin, but very fast).
wonder if they invited Kyle Tucker, Mary Pozzi, or any other big names (in the Pro Touring scene, anyways) that drive the wheels off highly modified old cars on tracks and autocross courses?
maybe they had Mark Stielow show up with one of his creations- like his latest 69 Camaro that is marginally faster on a road course than a new ZL1- put on some overalls with no shirt, and talk all southern to play the role of "redneck"?
Hey guys,
I found this thread and thought I would jump in and try to clear up some of the misconceptions about the show.
First, I am one of the rednecks on the show. Second, I have been a redneck (not a hick, but a redneck) all my life. The word may mean different things to different people, but I have said more than once in my life, "Hey Yall, watch this!"
I am from Georgia, but live in Tennessee now, so I think that qualifies me as a true southern redneck. I don't live in a double wide, but I do love to go to Bristol and can put my hands on a mason jar if you know what I mean.
That said, the show is for real. It was real racing, no jokes, no games and no do overs. We were paired with pretty equal cars for the most part and the results were the results. The spinout you see in the promo (Blue Fairlane).....that was me, and yes, filmed as it happened, during my race. No set up for TV stuff, we gave them plenty without having to fake anything.
There is some really funny stuff that we did, just as rednecks do in real life. A lot was done after hours with no cameras running but that is a whole nother story. We did live at the track for about two weeks, and had a blast but when you put that many buddies together for that long, you always see some misbehavior, that is just human nature.
I think if you watch the show, you will see several things, but the most important is that you can mix the musclecars with modern cars and have a great mix of results. Remember, we are all car guys, but in the end, we all love cars, regardless of our age or bank accounts. I am a blue collar guy myself, builder by trade and I work on my own car. One back story I will share, I own the 72 charger. On Sunday before the filming started, we broke a pin in the camshaft and bent 12 valves. We tore the motor apart between filming, rebuilt it from the heads up and then raced it later in the week. Yeah, rebuilt it in the sand and dirt and then raced it. In fact, it is still running now and I don't plan to tear it back down for now.
So, watch the show and keep in mind regardless of the outcome, that was truly how it worked out. Hopefully there will be a second and third season and if there is, the producers will be looking for others to compete. Keep an eye out on the forums for their call, and who knows, maybe you will get the chance to see if you are faster than a Redneck.
I can't go into the particulars of the show, you will have to watch it, but I will keep an eye on this thread and answer any questions I can.
Bill Howell