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G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man Dork
11/4/15 7:28 p.m.
Robbie wrote: Are there any 'body-on-frame' minivans? Some quick googling suggests that the ford aerostar and the chevy astrovan have frames 'integrated' into the unibody, so they are close but no dice. Of course a lot of full size vans are body on frame. Other ideas?

The Dustbusters were spaceframe based, if that helps. They are stupid light when stripped out (for a van), and had an option for a 3800. A GTP powered Dustbuster would be pretty neat.

That_Renault_Guy
That_Renault_Guy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/15 4:18 p.m.

I'm gonna be so disappointed if this doesn't result in at least one Molly Hatchet album cover worthy mural

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
11/6/15 12:25 a.m.

Seems appropriate today, we'll miss you George

supervan photo: SuperVan(ORIGINAL) SuperVanPic1ORIGINAL_zps5f0f2ba4.jpg

wheels777
wheels777 Dork
11/6/15 5:04 a.m.
TheV8Kid wrote:
rich911s wrote: Autocross, shmotocross ... I wan't to pull the front wheels.
Now I'm interested!

Ya, I could be talked into this.....

ARE FULL SIZED VANS ALLOWED TO COMPETE?

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltimaDork
11/6/15 8:48 a.m.

In reply to Robbie:

If it helps any I think the Astro is set up kinda like a really big 1/2 gen F body, frame up front bolted to a unibody tub.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
11/6/15 9:31 a.m.
wheels777 wrote:
TheV8Kid wrote:
rich911s wrote: Autocross, shmotocross ... I wan't to pull the front wheels.
Now I'm interested!
Ya, I could be talked into this..... ARE FULL SIZED VANS ALLOWED TO COMPETE?

If you can make it do this, I see no reason that you would be turned away. Heck, you would be heralded as a master of The Challenge which is praise that you have already earned.

Should the full size be allowed? I will first the motion that yes, they should be.
I am sure another genuine competitor will second the motion.

There has been enough support and enthusiasm for Dajibans already.
But, I do wonder, would an Astro van be lighter?

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman Reader
11/6/15 10:40 a.m.

Bonus points if you can tow a second challenge car with your van.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/6/15 10:50 a.m.

In reply to Andy Neuman:

There is no way you could avoid getting into the magazine doing that.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
11/6/15 10:52 a.m.

In reply to Andy Neuman:

This was a topic of discussion with my team mate. Might still do it if I can find a suitable van next year closer to the challenge.

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
11/6/15 12:13 p.m.

Bonus points for bringing another challenge car in the van

How much can a manual V6 odyssey tow, I wonder?

Gasoline
Gasoline SuperDork
11/6/15 12:27 p.m.

There should be a loophole that lets you sell ice cream out of it to recoup cost.....

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/5302431771.html

$600.00 OBO Aluminum Ice Cream Van - $600 (EULESS)

DatsunS130
DatsunS130 Reader
11/6/15 12:27 p.m.
pimpm3 wrote: Bonus points for bringing another challenge car in the van How much can a manual V6 odyssey tow, I wonder?

Could tow a well sorted race fiero.

DatsunS130
DatsunS130 Reader
11/6/15 12:29 p.m.

I vote for full size vans to be allowed.

wheels777
wheels777 Dork
11/6/15 1:05 p.m.
Andy Neuman wrote: Bonus points if you can tow a second challenge car with your van.

That is exactly what we want to do. We have 2 trailers and one tow vehicle.

ShawneeCreek
ShawneeCreek GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/6/15 2:23 p.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: The Dustbusters were spaceframe based, if that helps. They are stupid light when stripped out (for a van), and had an option for a 3800. A GTP powered Dustbuster would be pretty neat.

Challenge (for the Challenge) accepted. I just picked up a 1996 Chevrolet Lumina APV for $275. Build thread coming soon.

bluej
bluej SuperDork
11/6/15 2:23 p.m.
wheels777 wrote:
Andy Neuman wrote: Bonus points if you can tow a second challenge car with your van.
That is exactly what we want to do. We have 2 trailers and one tow vehicle.

PACC racing triple entry?! yikes!

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
11/6/15 2:39 p.m.
ShawneeCreek wrote:
G_Body_Man wrote: The Dustbusters were spaceframe based, if that helps. They are stupid light when stripped out (for a van), and had an option for a 3800. A GTP powered Dustbuster would be pretty neat.
Challenge (for the Challenge) accepted. I just picked up a 1996 Chevrolet Lumina APV for $275. Build thread coming soon.

It makes me giggly to read this since I know too much based on what you told me last week. I see the wheels are in motion!

ShawneeCreek
ShawneeCreek GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/6/15 3:40 p.m.

Oh, yes. The wheels are in motion. The van even runs under it's own power.

failboat
failboat UberDork
11/6/15 4:10 p.m.

http://www.oddimotive.com/2015/11/1989-chevy-van-with-ferris-wheel-seating.html?m=1

Take a full-size van, cut the top half off, throw lowering spindles up front and axle flip kit at the back....could probably lower the cg a good bit.

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
11/6/15 8:00 p.m.

Sweet with Andrew,shawneecreeks and they Dajivan entry we are up to four. Not bad for two weeks post challenge.

I am fine with full size vans even though I think an Astro would be a better option. What is the ruling from the staff?

Can I flat tow a fiero? Hmm...

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/6/15 8:29 p.m.
Andy Neuman wrote: Bonus points if you can tow a second challenge car with your van.

Team alavanche is rumored to be looking at a $600 astro van tomorrow morning. And also may have astro V8 swap mounts on the shelf, and.... Cart before horse, slow down.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/15 9:36 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Seems appropriate today, we'll miss you George supervan photo: SuperVan(ORIGINAL) SuperVanPic1ORIGINAL_zps5f0f2ba4.jpg

Supervan the movie

The Supervan Man?

If you could find a few dustbusters...

DatsunS130
DatsunS130 Reader
11/6/15 9:51 p.m.
pimpm3 Can I flat tow a fiero? Hmm...

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
11/6/15 10:10 p.m.

Jesus I'm glad I'm going to be in florida.....

failboat
failboat UberDork
11/7/15 12:34 a.m.

Being a big supporter of all things vans, I feel like I need to be in Florida to witness this spectacle.

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