Ashyukun
Ashyukun GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/22/16 4:18 p.m.

So, despite now having the Park Avenue to fix up, I've continued to look around at other cars (which like many here I imagine is just second nature to do all the time)- and am somewhat kicking myself because of something that just showed up- a 94 Camaro convertible for $700 that needs a tie rod and some interior work (actually doesn't look bad to me). A convertible is what I'd really been wanting, and fixing a tie rod is not particularly worrisome.

Convincing SWMBO that I should get the Camaro along with the Park Avenue and fixing up the Park Avenue to flip and the Camaro for us to drive in the summer will be a challenge (no pun intended), but it also got my mind ticking over a bit about something else- the later 4th Gen Camaros had actually used the non-SC'd Series II 3800 engine, so presumably it would bolt up almost automatically to the transmission.

With having the Park Avenue Ultra and it's L67 supercharged 3800, am I right in assuming that I have pretty much everything I'd need to swap that engine into the Camaro?

Chadeux
Chadeux New Reader
2/22/16 4:29 p.m.

I seem to recall something about the FWD block having the starter on the wrong side to just bolt up to the camaro trans.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
2/22/16 4:34 p.m.

Had a friend who looked into this when he had a 3800 Firebird. The supercharger won't fit under the firewall, because the engine is jammed halfway under the cowl and there's not a lot of clearance above. There were a multitude of other issues that made what seems a simple swap into a nightmare and he ended up selling it and going to a '69 Firebird with a 455.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
2/22/16 5:55 p.m.

You have to be able to cut and fabricate and aluminum-weld on a new supercharger inlet that turns around 180* and has the TB facing the front of the car again.

I think it's neat but i also think a 3.8/5spd camaro is just as fast as an sc3.8/auto fwd (stock for stock, anyway), until they hit about 80mph at which point the camaro becomes way faster. So maybe just buy a 3.8/5spd camaro? Very underappreciated powertrain option imo.

Will
Will SuperDork
2/22/16 6:35 p.m.

As a fourth-gen Camaro owner, I feel I should tell you that save for the LS1, it's a pretty miserable vehicle. The suspension isn't completely awful for a stick axle car, but it's fairly rough around town.

chiodos
chiodos Dork
2/22/16 6:44 p.m.

Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/22/16 6:48 p.m.

I have done three engine pulls in Camaros. One twin turbo LS1 (well, it was an aluminum GenIII, but it was something like 421ci, might have started life as an LS2 block?), one LT1, and one supercharged LT1.

I would place them at a 9 on the PITA scale.

On the upside, my PITA scale goes to 11, because of course it does.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
2/22/16 6:53 p.m.
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.

I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/22/16 8:22 p.m.
NickD wrote:
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.
I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.

And he's coming to the Challenge right?

Toughest thing about he S/C swap is the inlet faces the wrong way. Its been done, poke around the web.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
2/23/16 5:23 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote:
NickD wrote:
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.
I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.
And he's coming to the Challenge right? Toughest thing about he S/C swap is the inlet faces the wrong way. Its been done, poke around the web.

Nope. He's building it to take to "Mexico".

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/23/16 7:24 a.m.
NickD wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote:
NickD wrote:
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.
I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.
And he's coming to the Challenge right? Toughest thing about he S/C swap is the inlet faces the wrong way. Its been done, poke around the web.
Nope. He's building it to take to "Mexico".

So the V8 swap is so that he has enough torque to flat tow a couple of wrecked cars behind it on the way down?

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/23/16 7:58 a.m.
Furious_E wrote:
NickD wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote:
NickD wrote:
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.
I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.
And he's coming to the Challenge right? Toughest thing about he S/C swap is the inlet faces the wrong way. Its been done, poke around the web.
Nope. He's building it to take to "Mexico".
So the V8 swap is so that he has enough torque to flat tow a couple of wrecked cars behind it on the way down?

no, but it has plenty of torque bring back several kilos of your high of choice in hidden compartments.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
2/23/16 8:49 a.m.
patgizz wrote:
Furious_E wrote:
NickD wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote:
NickD wrote:
chiodos wrote: Flip the Buick, put a 5.3 or 4.8 into the f body. With a turbo duh. Or at least an ls1 cam.
I have a friend doing this exact thing. He has a $200 4.8L going into a $100 engine-less '94 Camaro RS with a $350 dollar TH350 transmission.
And he's coming to the Challenge right? Toughest thing about he S/C swap is the inlet faces the wrong way. Its been done, poke around the web.
Nope. He's building it to take to "Mexico".
So the V8 swap is so that he has enough torque to flat tow a couple of wrecked cars behind it on the way down?
no, but it has plenty of torque bring back several kilos of your high of choice in hidden compartments.

No, that'd be if he was going to Mexico. He's going to "Mexico."

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
2/23/16 7:24 p.m.

YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO?!?!?!

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