WilberM3
WilberM3 Dork
9/19/14 9:28 a.m.

EDIT- it's a 1977

ok so i know about the drivetrain parts by name only really, so for $1000 i'm just curious how much trouble i'd be getting myself into.

this one speaks to me with its yellow paint and gold velour interior...

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory SuperDork
9/19/14 10:09 a.m.

460/C6/9"? What's not to like!

When you're starting with that combo and it runs and drives, I'd be all over it (while wearing my orange velour suit and feathered hat).

Anything you might see in a Sanford and Son or Kojak rerun is ok by me!

Richard Nixon
Richard Nixon SuperDork
9/19/14 10:26 a.m.

Teach you?

Buy gas. Lots of it. Drive, then autocross. Repeat and have fun!

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
9/19/14 11:15 a.m.

Hard to imagine a finer land yacht. Go for it!

WilberM3
WilberM3 Dork
9/19/14 12:05 p.m.

what's the likelyhood of it coming equipped with a posi 9"? how horrific would it be in the snow with light truck tires and an open diff?

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Reader
9/19/14 12:11 p.m.
WilberM3 wrote: how horrific would it be in the snow with light truck tires and an open diff?

I think you meant to say "fun and giggles" and accidentally typed "horrific"

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UltraDork
9/19/14 12:19 p.m.

I doubt that many, if any, came with LSDs, but, since its a Ford 9" swapping one in along with a better gear ratio couldn't be much easier.

I love '70's Lincolns. When you open the hood, that big block has so much room it looks small!

Cotton
Cotton UltraDork
9/19/14 12:20 p.m.

awesome. for 1k don't ask questions, just buy it! With scrap prices right now it's worth around 600 or so in scrap.

Ian F
Ian F UltimaDork
9/19/14 12:41 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: I love '70's Lincolns. When you open the hood, that big block has so much room it looks small!

Yes and no... I see these at cars shows all the time - there's a Lincoln club car show every Fall my Volvo group attends most years and there's always a dozen or so of these.

It always amazes me how such a large car could have the engine so difficult to get to. The front is so long there's literally about 3' between the bumper and the fan. The York A/C compressor and related hoses dominate the top of the engine along with about 4 miles of vacuum hoses. The hood doesn't open up at much of an angle, so when working on it from the side, you're constantly banging your head.

They're neat cars and I like seeing them at shows, but I have no desire to own one, much less work on one.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
9/19/14 12:52 p.m.

1976 would have been a Mark IV, the Mark V came along in 1977 (although mechanically there wasn't much difference between the two years.) Why run light truck tires? I'd stick with a good set of regular passenger car snow tires. It should be alright for winter driving, although I imagine the front/rear weight distribution isn't ideal.

WilberM3
WilberM3 Dork
9/19/14 1:00 p.m.

yea you're right it's a 77 so it's a Mark V.
i just figured it shares more with trucks in construction and layout than most cars but i suppose i'd throw whatever cheap decent snow tires would work well enough.

i've yet to really check out the engine bay on one so it sounds like it's only going to be worth buying if it's mostly sound mechanically. i don't have a lot of desire to spend much time under the hood either during winter time.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
9/19/14 1:01 p.m.

WilberM3
WilberM3 Dork
9/19/14 1:34 p.m.

that's a Mark IV, this is a Mark V

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse Dork
9/19/14 1:37 p.m.

We ran a 1975 LTD in LeMons, and swapped in a mid-80's smogtastic 460. I have learned many tips and tricks to making these engines work, for what they are. Along the way I've actually developed an appreciation for them.

First, general underhood sanitation: This engine needs two things to run: spark and fuel. It's stupidly simple. There's a FoMoCo ignition box, kinda like what Mopar did. Hook that to the distributor, battery, and coil, and all will work.

There's an aftermarket (Ford Performance) dizzy cap that lets you run GM-HEI style wires, which work much better than the stock Ford stuff.

This should have a 4 bbl carb. The stock carb works OK with a rebuild. An aftermarket 4 bbl from Edelbrock, about 600 CFM, works even better and is easily tunable. An aluminum intake will save you about 40 pounds of weight, too.

We got a Miloden (IIRC) windage tray. Easy to install, with the engine out. Not so easy with it in.

Most of the hoses and crap for emissions can go by-by with the new carb. You'll need a vacuum hose to run the HVAC controls/ popup headlights, etc, one for the brake booster, and one for the dizzy advance. It's really easy. Replace all rubber hoses, everywhere.

The most HP per dollar increase can be gotten from cam timing. This is the orientation of the crank sprocket to the cam sprocket at the timing chain. In the Smog era, Ford retarded the timing 8 degrees for NoX emissions. Install a pre-smog timing chain set (1971 or earlier) and you'll gain like 50 horsepower, right there, for about $40. You'll also pick up a mile or two per gallon, which is a huge percentage increase. ;-)

The C6 is about the most bulletproof transmission ever. A $30 "Mr. Shift" kit will tighten up shifts and it will last forever. Run your Type F fluid- it has special friction enhancers. And check your U-joints, they do wear out, and are much cheaper to fix before they trash something important.

Basic suspension upgrades are easy, cheap, and pay huge dividends. Get some good shocks, either a bigger front sway or double up the front sways (find a second from the junkyard or online) and a good rear sway bar. Dial in all the cambers up front.

Loose the bumper over-riders if you like, and ditch the crumbling plastic crap between the bumpers and the body, then press in the bumpers (basically simulating a collision). Looks much better, IMO.

If you're brave and strong and don't parallel park, ditch the power steering, run it manual. Much better feel and control.

I may think of more stuff. Feel free to ask questions about specific stuff- chances are I've messed with it.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse Dork
9/19/14 1:42 p.m.

As for tires, snows should be cheaper than truck tires, and will probably work better in the white fluffies. Dump a few hundred pounds of sand in the trunk and you'll be fine. LSD chunk will get you going, but you'll be all over the place trying to turn. Stick with a one-legged rear. Maybe get some spring inserts to jack up the ride height and inch or two for ground clearance- especially with the weight in the trunk.

Richard Nixon
Richard Nixon SuperDork
9/19/14 1:50 p.m.

Snow? I hate you.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
9/19/14 2:00 p.m.

http://www.memoriesofhawaiifive-0.com/mcgarrettscar.htm

ohh man that looks like a 2 door version of mcgarrets 74.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/14 4:13 p.m.

Do you like vacuum lines?

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
9/19/14 5:37 p.m.

Pros- Pretend you'e in a blaxploitation movie, torques

Cons- 8mpg, smog emissions controls

dropstep
dropstep Reader
9/19/14 7:51 p.m.

Add better intake and carb, maybe an exhaust and a better set of gears with a trac loc and have a blast. i have a weird fondness for big cars!

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid PowerDork
9/19/14 8:06 p.m.

Intake, Carb, exhaust, and final drive, then your golden.

Well I'd bag it with wide whites personally, but that's a whole other ordeal.

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