Javelin wrote:
Those kits are $$$ though I've been watching eBay for *years* and haven't landed a buildable one for under 3 digits yet. *Sigh*
When I was a kid all the Jo Han kits were $4.50. AMT/MPC and Revell/Monogram usually were $5.00-5.50. I never got one of the Rebel.
I'm guessing that kit was one of the ones that the tooling was damaged beyond repair. I'm surprised nobody has offered a resin repop of it.
ST_ZX2
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2/22/11 8:04 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
Ooooh oooh! Pick me, pick me! The Rebel Machine was a Rebel 2-door Coupe with the AMX 390, either a TF727 or a T-10 4-Speed, and a Twin-Grip rear. They could be had in any of the standard Rebel colors with a blacked-out hood w/scoop or in the crazy signature AMC Red/White/Blue.
They are pretty easy to "clone" as all you really need visually is the hoodscoop, which is readily available. Many AMC people have made 68 and 69 Machines, and even Machine wagons. The 71 got a little awkward in styling and is often not used. AMC themselves did make a 71 Matador Machine though.
The Machine actually had the AMX engine +15 HP (340 vs 325)...it had a unique intake manifold.
Rob_Mopar wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
I really liked these cars since I got a Johnny Lightning model Rebel Machine as a kid. I know the Rebel Machine is a rare one year model but how hard would it be to create a replica from a regular coupe and what are the differences other then the 390 engine?
Getting the itch for a muscle car? Can't blame you there. I'm guessing the Charger didn't pan out.
The Charger was more of scooping out for my friend. If anyone is interested, I will get pictures for you.
The Rebel idea is for me. I have always wanted a muscle car. My ADD jumps between a 68 Ford Torino w/ a 427, a Plymouth Duster and an AMC Rebel.
What are the suspension options for a Rebel?
For a 69-, not much. Ancient trunion design. For a 70+ good! dual ball joints! Built "stock-style" there's multiple companies who offer better bushings, bigger swaybars, shocks, springs, etc. For the truly hard core a new company is making bolt-in suspensions that are crazy wild (all tubular). I don't know if they've made it to the Rebel yet, but I know they were working on it.
The intake on the Machine was called the R4B and it was a factory option. There's multiple documented cars that had them built on the line, and they were also offered over-the-counter as part of Group 13.
Rob_Mopar wrote:
Javelin wrote:
Those kits are $$$ though I've been watching eBay for *years* and haven't landed a buildable one for under 3 digits yet. *Sigh*
When I was a kid all the Jo Han kits were $4.50. AMT/MPC and Revell/Monogram usually were $5.00-5.50. I never got one of the Rebel.
I'm guessing that kit was one of the ones that the tooling was damaged beyond repair. I'm surprised nobody has offered a resin repop of it.
Somebody owns all of the JoHan's old molds and will not release them. The resin makers have gotten very cautious about releasing kits that are straight-repops for legal reasons. I'm sitting on a few AMC kits I would like to resin-mold...
So basically I should try to find a 70-71.
Now if only I could find one/ had the money.
ST_ZX2
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2/22/11 9:46 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
The intake on the Machine was called the R4B and it was a factory option. There's multiple documented cars that had them built on the line, and they were also offered over-the-counter as part of Group 13.
No. The R4B was aluminum and was a Group 19 part (dealer installed), made by Edelbrock. The Machine manifold was a casting--with a unique casting number and p/n, but unlike the AMX and other manifolds, it had a more open plenum design (2 ovals vs 4 circles). It actually out-flowed the R4B, but was heavier cast iron.
Ah! You are correct! It's getting late I am trying to do my taxes
ST_ZX2
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2/22/11 10:07 p.m.
Don't give it all away to the man!
The R4B could be had with an AMC p/n (thru Group 19) or without a p/n (thru Edelbrock). The "AMC" R4Bs are highly saught after now-a-days...a cool little bit to notice is that there is a cut-out in the wall that seperates the right and left plenum--that is to facilitate the butterfly on a Holly 3-V carb--also a Group 19 part.
I had an R4B once, it was pretty cool. All of the Group 19 is stuff is cool, actually.
So many tax forms....