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mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/23/12 1:35 p.m.

you can tell by the length it is only a day cab.

I like it.. but I would like to see them do something about the flipcab box trucks.. those things are the proverbial brick through the air (bricks might be more aerodynamic)

irish44j
irish44j SuperDork
3/23/12 1:44 p.m.

that's not Frieghtliner "aero"

this is Freightliner "aero"

OldGray320i
OldGray320i Reader
3/23/12 2:08 p.m.
Fletch1 wrote: Two thumbs down. Here's a real truck

Looks like the truck from Duel...

Nashco
Nashco UltraDork
3/23/12 2:55 p.m.

Just to clarify a few things, because knowledge IS power:

  1. You can get aluminum frame rails on current production trucks.
  2. There are plenty of trucks on the road with ONLY one door (google: half cab truck). This concept has two doors.

Bryce

Derick Freese
Derick Freese Dork
3/23/12 4:22 p.m.

In reply to OldGray320i:

Look at his avatar :p

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/23/12 4:32 p.m.

Aluminum frames are old news. We had some macks with them and they were all junk. One had a crack on each rail running from the bogies right up under the cab, and everywhere they touch steel they rot.

And I have personally pulled two drivers through their pasenger doors.

But one was already dead, so maybe he doesn't count. The other one couldn't open the drivers door because the truck was lying on it.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/23/12 4:54 p.m.
bearmtnmartin wrote: Aluminum frames are old news. We had some macks with them and they were all junk. One had a crack on each rail running from the bogies right up under the cab, and everywhere they touch steel they rot. And I have personally pulled two drivers through their pasenger doors. But one was already dead, so maybe he doesn't count. The other one couldn't open the drivers door because the truck was lying on it.

Seems to me that the combination of high torque and a material with a propensity towards fatigue and electrolysis is a match made in hell. Besides, given the total weight of the truck and it's load, saving 500 lbs. on the chasis seems insignificant.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Dork
3/23/12 5:19 p.m.

Even without a passenger side door there's still a pretty decent sized window to crawl out of. I like the look of it.

OldGray320i
OldGray320i Reader
3/23/12 6:25 p.m.
Derick Freese wrote: In reply to OldGray320i: Look at his avatar :p

I think I better check my rear view frequently.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory Reader
3/23/12 7:24 p.m.
OldGray320i wrote: Looks like the truck from Duel...

Bingo!

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
3/24/12 12:53 a.m.

Inspiration:

peter
peter Reader
3/24/12 1:53 a.m.

Uh, as a Miata driver I'll tell you the first thing I noticed about this truck is that the front bumper is low enough that it just might hit some hard part of my car during an impact (as opposed to my soft head).

I approve of this truck.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/24/12 6:09 a.m.
peter wrote: Uh, as a Miata driver I'll tell you the first thing I noticed about this truck is that the front bumper is low enough that it just might hit some hard part of my car during an impact (as opposed to my soft head). I approve of this truck.

actually, most otr trucks have fairly low bumpers. They help with the limited aero they have. It's the idiots in pickups who see a need to get their front bumper 5 feet into the air

qdseeker
qdseeker Reader
3/24/12 10:30 a.m.
tpwalsh wrote: I think you guys are missing the point of the lack of a passenger door. The point was to be able to use the space where a passenger seat might be and use it for something more functional.

What does the passenger door have to do with space where the passenger seat is? Having no passenger door is completely unsafe and, I would imagine, not DOT approved. I don't have a passenger seat in my tractor and I have no problems using the extra space even with a door on that side.

I personally can't wait for my new Volvo to get to me. I like driving the International I have now, for ride quality, but too many things break too easily on it.

dankspeed
dankspeed Reader
3/24/12 10:54 a.m.
Nashco wrote: If you're interested in more info on the concept, watch this: http://youtu.be/eQLFT73Kr2w Bryce

i like the design especially after watching this video.

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
3/24/12 11:20 a.m.

Well after watching that Andy Olson won't be getting a job anytime soon.

When does he get axed when they do the study to realize that they just cut at minimum the approximately 100,000 teams out of their market?

That is just the team figures, now take into consideration the number of guys that won't buy because of the hooker comment earlier.

Poor sales, poor decision, cool looking truck though!

ThePhranc
ThePhranc HalfDork
3/24/12 11:27 a.m.

I though front windshields on big rigs were exit points in a tip over? Don't they pop out?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/25/12 12:29 a.m.
qdseeker wrote:
tpwalsh wrote: I think you guys are missing the point of the lack of a passenger door. The point was to be able to use the space where a passenger seat might be and use it for something more functional.
What does the passenger door have to do with space where the passenger seat is? Having no passenger door is completely unsafe and, I would imagine, not DOT approved. I don't have a passenger seat in my tractor and I have no problems using the extra space even with a door on that side.

And having a door there helps get the E36 M3 off of the floor on that side. It's only a concept though.. I am sure if it comes close to production, it will gain a door.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
3/25/12 2:37 a.m.
mad_machine wrote:
qdseeker wrote:
tpwalsh wrote: I think you guys are missing the point of the lack of a passenger door. The point was to be able to use the space where a passenger seat might be and use it for something more functional.
What does the passenger door have to do with space where the passenger seat is? Having no passenger door is completely unsafe and, I would imagine, not DOT approved. I don't have a passenger seat in my tractor and I have no problems using the extra space even with a door on that side.
And having a door there helps get the E36 M3 off of the floor on that side. It's only a concept though.. I am sure if it comes close to production, it will gain a door.

and a steel frame.. and a bumper..

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid SuperDork
3/25/12 7:05 a.m.
ThePhranc wrote: I though front windshields on big rigs were exit points in a tip over? Don't they pop out?

Yes, tractor windshields are supposed to be kicked easily outward. And if that's not feasable, firemen (who I hope would show up if the truck was on its side) should be able to break and rip it out rather easily.

I would also imagine that regardless of no door, there is a rather large window on that side of the truck that on could crawl out of.

Karl La Follette
Karl La Follette Dork
3/25/12 7:37 a.m.

No side door ?

jrw1621
jrw1621 PowerDork
3/25/12 7:53 a.m.

The "no side door" makes it harder for the hitch hikers to get away before the driver kills them.

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/25/12 10:58 a.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote:
ThePhranc wrote: I though front windshields on big rigs were exit points in a tip over? Don't they pop out?
Yes, tractor windshields are supposed to be kicked easily outward. And if that's not feasable, firemen (who I hope would show up if the truck was on its side) should be able to break and rip it out rather easily. I would also imagine that regardless of no door, there is a rather large window on that side of the truck that on could crawl out of.

Ummm, sorry but they use exactly the same mounting systems as cars. Either a rubber gasket or bonded with urethane. And at least up here in the frozen north, firemen can be a very long way from a truck accident. Try kicking out the windshield of your daily driver next time you have it replaced, just for fun. The one live driver I dragged out weighed about 300 pounds and he wasn't getting out of any side window either. It took 5 of us, and then we couldn't drag him back up the embankment, so he had to lie there for the 3 hours it took for EMS and SAR to arrive, and they used a pulley system to get him back to the road. He was grateful for the help, and offered the contents of his load of groceries to us, as they were scattered all over the slope. I did not, but there were a good number of passers by who made trips up and down to their cars with loot.

I also watched some idiot feeding a bear at a brake check a few years ago from the open door of his truck. Eventually the bear decided to go to the source and climbed right into the cab. That driver was happy to have a second door to leave from.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid SuperDork
3/25/12 11:34 a.m.

In reply to bearmtnmartin:

I'm just going by what I was told in Diesel Tech School. As a first responder what are you going to do if the truck is laying on the drivers door and the passenger door is locked? You have limited options. If the driver is fine and climb out the passenger door, great, but if they can't, the windshield is the most obvious exit point, especially since you can stand up in truck laying on its side.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
3/25/12 11:39 a.m.

Where is the deer catcher front bumper? That looks a lot less sturdy than this one:

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