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triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
11/20/10 1:39 p.m.

Take one miniature Kubota 4wd tractor, place Fiat 850 body over it. Remove diesel, remove heavy axels, add spinning triangles power, and Justy half-shafts.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/20/10 3:16 p.m.

Now find that in challenge budget.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/10 8:09 a.m.
pres589 wrote: In reply to Javelin: How would you remove the AMC motor from an SX/4 and keep the AWD without a whole pile of engineering? I mean, with the right time, skills and tools I'm sure you could do something pretty groovy but come on.

It uses a transfer case on the end of the trans, which will either be a T-5 derivative (which bolts to nearly anything), or a 904-type auto, which can also bolt up to a lot of applications (Chrysler). If your plans don't involve domestic engines or anything familiar with a T-5, you can always attempt to bolt the transfer case to whatever trans you are working with. Or if you went really nuts and already had a longitudinal engine/trans from and AWD you could weld them in and make custom driveshafts and be done. You'd be amazed at the bizarre engine swaps some Eagle guys do.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/10 11:41 a.m.

It has merit but as Mr.Joshua stated independent suspension is a must. I failed to mention that somewhere.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/10 12:48 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: It has merit but as Mr.Joshua stated independent suspension is a must. I failed to mention that somewhere.

Que? AMC Eagle's have Independent front suspension. You only have a stick in the back.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/10 5:40 p.m.

For it work it MUST have 4 independent axles. I know its a pain right. I like the look of the sx/4 the stick out back makes it a no go.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/10 6:49 p.m.

suzuki x-90?

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/21/10 7:05 p.m.
AutoXR wrote: Find a small car and use 4 Wheeler parts to make it awd. This is what I plan to do with my Velam Isetta

I saw exactly the opposite. Speed shop I know took a Yamaha Rhino or equivalent side by side and dropped a turbo d16 in it. Looked like it belonged there.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
11/21/10 7:05 p.m.

Looks like they have a solid axle rear as well.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/10 7:22 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: For it work it MUST have 4 independent axles. I know its a pain right. I like the look of the sx/4 the stick out back makes it a no go.

So weld in the IRS from a MN12 Thunderbird (89-97). They're practically free, have disc brakes, and have a nice center chunk with good gears.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
11/21/10 7:34 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

We are trying to avoid fabricating suspension stuff on this theoretical exercise.

Mikey52_1
Mikey52_1 HalfDork
11/21/10 7:52 p.m.

So far, I haven't seen a requirement for this to be a front engine, longitudinally arranged drivetrain. How about engine/trans from a FWD, (or a bike?) turned 90 degrees. This puts the normal axleshafts lengthwise. Extend them to each drive axle, chosen 1), for availability, and 2), for weight/strength. Two Tracker frontaxles, with one set up for straight ahead driving, and the second to act in its normal position as 'front, steering axle', come to mind.

Chose 3.0-ish gearing for the axles and whatever is handy for the tranny gearing. This eliminates the transfer case, dumps a bunch of potential weight from the design and sets it up for high revs for a possibility of long, no-shift torque curves. No shifting thru a course of cones, only lifting the right foot to match needs, with wants, torquewise.

There. Continue as you will...

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