fast_eddie_72 wrote: In reply to BoxheadTim: Did you see the one where he was challenged to a race and faced impossible odds and it looked like he was going to lose, but then he realized something just in time and was able to pull out a win? That was a good one.
Well played, Sir. Well Played. 
Keith wrote: It doesn't really matter if various individuals here haven't heard of InitialD - what's important is that there are a lot of people who have. And that's one of the big sources of the initial buzz for the car. Kinda like the way the Skyline was introduced to North America via Gran Turismo. The proposed specs helped as well in other circles. I tried to get into InitialD via the anime. Couldn't do it. I found a lot of the animation simply ugly and AE86-san seemed to win at least 75% of his races by hooking an inside wheel into a curb. I'll give it another try someday though. I'd rather watch eX-Driver. At least the girls are cute and you get a Seven, a Europa and a Stratos instead of an old Japanese economy car
For Initial D, the Fourth Stage is where it's at... lots of different things going on... made me want a Suzuki Cappuccino really bad (if only we could get Kei cars in the US...sigh) For anime though, Capeta would be the racing series (Karts and Formula cars) to watch. eX-Driver is good though for all the things you mentioned plus miss Ducati 900 SS, Rei Kazama...YeowzaH! The vehicle sounds in eX-Driver are also top notch as well...easily better than Initial D and on par with Gunsmith Cats (Shelby GT 500 chase scene...)
plance1, 200hp is enough for the car... witness these videos:
I was really hoping that ferz-berz would be the name of these cars.....now I piecing together that they are referred to as frisbees. I am going to keep calling them ferz-berz.
BoxheadTim wrote: IIRC that only really became obvious (to me at least, in the Manga) when he followed the guys from Tokyo(?) down the mountain driving the wheels off Iggy's AE85.
In the anime, they made it clear even earlier on - Keisuke has been talking about how Takumi's car looks stock but "it's got to be a monster." At their first official race, Ryosuke sees Takumi's car slowly glide off the starting line and comments, "The monster is not the car, but the driver."
plance1 wrote: Hard to get excited about a car when their marketing department thinks 200 horsepower is a big deal
The marketing department doesn't think that. That's just the only way they know how to sell a car to meatheads.
The lore is that when this car got first broached to Toyota's board, the first question they asked was "How much faster is this than the competition?", and, of course, it's not. If the head of Toyota hadn't been insistent on it's production, they would've axed it immediately.
That is the beauty of this car in my mind. New sports cars are already too fast to even think about hitting the limits on public roads. Hell, with my Star Specs and suspension mods, you can't safely hit the limits of my foxbody on public roads. This is the first sports car I'm aware of that was designed with driver experience placed at a higher priority than performance numbers (at least the first one in over 20 years), and I think that's something that will be historically noteworthy.
Very true. I am having more fun at low speeds in my NA1.6 miata doing below speed limit speeds than I have in cars going faster. It's engaging and it makes enough noise and sits low enough to feel fast.
Reminds me of supermoto on bikes was the same way
Plus of all the things you can do to a car with aftermarket power is one of the most straight forward
ReverendDexter wrote:plance1 wrote: Hard to get excited about a car when their marketing department thinks 200 horsepower is a big dealThe marketing department doesn't think that. That's just the only way they know how to sell a car to meatheads.
Yes, you're a real meathead if you care about a car's power output lol!
plance1 wrote: Hard to get excited about a car when their marketing department thinks 200 horsepower is a big deal
it's more than my FC RX7 and the 944 had, and more than the Miata. It was never supposed to be a high power car, but a medium powered, balanced, lightweight one, along the lines of the aforementioned cars. Like pretty much all traditional sports cars, in fact.
plance1 wrote: Yes, you're a real meathead if all you care about is a car's power output lol!
Fixed that for you.
BoxheadTim wrote: IIRC that only really became obvious (to me at least, in the Manga) when he followed the guys from Tokyo(?) down the mountain driving the wheels off Iggy's AE85. I've actually never watched the anime, only read the Manga until I thought it became a little too repetitive.
I can tell by the way you misspelled Itsuki's name.
MadScientistMatt wrote: In the anime, they made it clear even earlier on - Keisuke has been talking about how Takumi's car looks stock but "it's got to be a monster." At their first official race, Ryosuke sees Takumi's car slowly glide off the starting line and comments, "The monster is not the car, but the driver."
Well, it's easy to ignore him, because he drives a Turbo II, so his opinion means nothing.
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