J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
8/25/24 7:11 p.m.
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For 2025, the Pittsburgh International Race Complex will host the SCCA Time Trials Nationals. Our Ultimate Track Car Challenge, run in conjunction with the Time Trial Nationals, will also make the move to Pitt Race.

Just to be clear, this year’s events will still take place at NCM Motorsports Park in Kentucky on October 24-27, with UTCC on October …

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camopaint0707
camopaint0707 HalfDork
8/26/24 7:01 a.m.

but why?

flyin_viata
flyin_viata GRM+ Memberand New Reader
8/26/24 8:05 a.m.

...so what happened to that 10-year contract NCM & SCCA signed in 2018 that would carry through the 2028 Nats?

I'm interested to know who broke the contract - SCCA or NCM management.

turboshadow
turboshadow New Reader
8/26/24 8:13 a.m.

Welp, I've done the last 2 years of the TT National Tour at NCM with the goal of doing Nats in the next few years.  So much for that plan...

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/26/24 9:23 a.m.

If you haven't run Pitt Race, here's a preview. It's not the ideal line and its slow, but its a tour of the full track. 

 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/26/24 9:29 a.m.

Pitt race is a fun track!  I have thousands of laps on that track and probably still haven't mastered it.

It's more flowy than NCM.  It's probably a bit safer than NCM as well.  

Racebrick
Racebrick HalfDork
8/26/24 10:17 a.m.

I'm not sure that the majority of people affected by this change are going to be happy. I also don't think that making it shorter in duration is a smart move.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
8/26/24 12:06 p.m.

I'm really psyched about the move for UTCC--no sound limits will remove a big stumbling block for the big cars, plus Pitt is way better for spectators and has the infrastructure to support a big event. 

Honestly, I think Pitt Race is more run to race on, too, but I know that's subjective. I'd definitely argue it's safer.

glyn ellis
glyn ellis Reader
8/26/24 1:05 p.m.

Awesome track, about 35 mins from my house.

The video below is by Jack Neff, the chief instructor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3o-J6gcdnM

And this lap is truly impressive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49mTDznfI0s

deaconblue
deaconblue Reader
8/26/24 1:27 p.m.

Really late to the game with yet another dumb question... What happened with VIR?

Puddy46
Puddy46 HalfDork
8/26/24 4:00 p.m.

In reply to turboshadow :

I see you're in Cincinnati.  PittRace is only a little over an hour further away from Cinci than NCM is.  

PittRace has definitely invested in their facility in the last 10 years, and they're not done yet.  Was there for the national tour event this weekend, and they've got active construction for new building(s) right now.  It has come a long way from when it was BeaveRun.  

turboshadow
turboshadow New Reader
8/26/24 4:25 p.m.

In reply to Puddy46 :

Yes, it is still an easy enough drive to make but probably not in the cards for me next year.   It looks like it’s currently a 1 year deal at the moment, so hopefully they can get something long term worked out. 

trigun7469
trigun7469 UltraDork
8/27/24 1:15 p.m.

That is awesome, love pittrace.

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