Klayfish wrote:I think this conversation is now over. Any other questions?
You said the wrong one. Don't get a smileyface 2g. Get an awesomer 1g.
For the record, the black ones are faster, the Cosmic blue ones are cursed.
Klayfish wrote:
You said the wrong one. Don't get a smileyface 2g. Get an awesomer 1g.
For the record, the black ones are faster, the Cosmic blue ones are cursed.
Legacy Wagon? Slightly bigger than the Impreza and a nicer on the inside.
dculberson wrote: JohnnyD, did you mean 25+ average city+highway or 25+ highway only? The first is going to be tough, the second opens a world of possibilities. ;-)
With my 325iT, I averaged around 19 city, 27 hwy. Two issues come into play with that car/transmission. The first is that the wagons were fitted with a lower rear end to offset the slightly higher weight and the car cries out for a 6th gear on the hwy.
jonnyd330 wrote: In reply to dyintorace: Looks like we have similar tastes, I have a zhp coupe and I am trying to find a miata for track days.
We should talk then, because I have a turbo Miata track car for sale! 
In reply to dyintorace:
Is it street legal? email me jon at weekendhorsepower.com
jonnyd330 wrote: In reply to dyintorace: Is it street legal? email me jon at weekendhorsepower.com
Email sent!
Mazda 6? Manual wagons are rare, but they're out there. Rear seat room is better than the 3. Should have no trouble getting mid-20's mpg.
In reply to Ian F:
looked at a few in 06 when they were just about to kill the wagons, if any dealer received one, they just about never sold. with a sticker of 30k, they were priced way out of the market. looked at one 05 that had been on the lot 400+ days. right off the bat they knocked 10k off, and would have probably gone down under 20 if i had been more serious about buying.
I didn't think of this car before but saw an is300 sportcross today. i know they are all automatic but would be a cheap car to maintain how is the mpg on those?
If you could spend $22k, the e34 M5 touring on BaT yesterday is to die for!
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/2912890832.html
All work done professionally by Autotechniques in Orangepark by a tech who has done 20+ accord h22 swaps. You can speak with him if need be. List of mods: --H22a, with 5 speed LSD transmission running a P28 computer tuned with chrome. (good gas mileage) --Lightened flywheel, Headers -- All new belts, seals, tensioner conversion, grommets, gaskets, timing belt, cv joints, motor mounts, master cylinder, clutch master cylinder, brakes, new bushings --Tokico blue struts up front --99 CL Leather power heated seats --6000K HID low beams --Pioneer CD player with ipod connect --Cold air intake, new starter -- 17inch Volk racing wheels with new tires --Body is a 1994 LX wagon automatic that was cleanly converted. Car has 152k on it, motor has around 60k --Paint job performed by Dowling Autobody off parental home road. Stripped and repainted completly 1 year ago. Car is CLEAN and classy. --Over 10k invested easily. Drives great, and gets 30+mpg hwy. Must see Have many pictures. I do not have time to mess with this car anymore need an SUV ---prego wife!. Plain and simple.
jonnyd330 wrote: I didn't think of this car before but saw an is300 sportcross today. i know they are all automatic but would be a cheap car to maintain how is the mpg on those?
This was going to be my suggestion, very cool and rare cars. Definitely not something you see everyday...I think its been at least a year since I have seen one!
I have owned a couple 2jz powered cars, closest to the IS was my SC. It was inexpensive to maintain, the mpg is not stellar though. I averaged 17-18, but that includes lots of back roads adventures. If I Bob Costas footed it I could manage around 26-27 hwy mpg.
I think the coefficient of drag between an IS sportx and SC are close. But do keep in mind my SC was modified, lightened about 350lbs and a 5 spd. But I don't think the numbers would be that far off.
Personally I would try and find a 2005 Legact 2.5GT wagon in a 5spd. I believe 2005 was the only year for a manual.
Another option is an A4 1.8T Avant.
All of these have been suggested but hopefully I was of some help to you!
Josh
GTwannaB wrote: Legacy Wagon? Slightly bigger than the Impreza and a nicer on the inside.
SWMBO has outlawed Volvo station wagons, but I wonder if I campaigned hard enough...
"But honey, it's so I can haul the dog around!"
Damn, that thing looks good.
My mom's (2006?) Saab 9-3 Sportcombi is a pretty fun car with the turbo ecotec, even though it's an automatic.
It's this nice light bluish color:
(Side note: My dad did some rough interior measurements regarding his H3, at the time, and the Saab...the Saab won in most cases)
Only problem is finding the appropriate LGT wagon (IE a manual) with any sort of reasonable miles on it is difficult, at best, and they command a helluva premium.
mndsm wrote: Only problem is finding the appropriate LGT wagon (IE a manual) with any sort of reasonable miles on it is difficult, at best, and they command a helluva premium.
Yeah, I saw that with a quick search. It's going to be tricky to find something that I can fit a German Shepherd in the back of, enjoy driving, make fast, and get approval for.
Found one:
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/2928605413.html
In reply to unevolved:
Nice. I would have considered one of those instead of the V70R, but up in New England that car is probably asking at least 10 or 11.
Too bad about the Volvo veto. The R is a hell of a car.
Slant Six could get around 25mpg. 
Ugh, I'm going through this same debacle now.
No Saabs; terrified of the parts situation.
No Volvos; they all are turbos that need premium fuel.
Mazda 6; yeah, if I could even find one.
Jeep Patriot; the 4x4 with stick version continues to prove elusive. 4x2 has zero resale around here.
Mazda 3; too small, too ugly.
BMW 3 series; man would I love one, but in my price range they are getting a bit old.
Probably stuck with another Subaru, which isn't a bad thing, I'm just sort of bored with them.
The 5 banger Turbo Volvos run fine on regular. Oregon regular anyway. My manual says the minimum octane requirement is AKI 87 (RON 91) for a high pressure turbo. It goes faster with premium for sure but it goes fast enough on reg.
Shaun wrote: The 5 banger Turbo Volvos run fine on regular. Oregon regular anyway. My manual says the minimum octane requirement is AKI 87 (RON 91) for a high pressure turbo. It goes faster with premium for sure but it goes fast enough on reg.
Oh man I love your car, I always wanted one of those in a wagon form. Do you have a 5 speed?
My wife has 08 Mazda 3 (NON-speed) and she averages 30 MPG. Manual trans, power everything else. Not a lot of backseat leg room, and to me it needs more power, but...it has been a great car for us. 80k miles and we plan on driving it into the ground.
Right now I DD a 02 Subaru Outback 6cyl auto. The Subaru is heavier and feels better planted. The only drawback is that the Subaru averages about 22-23 MPG. The later 05+ body style gets a little better gas mileage. And of course the 4cyl would get better than the 6cyl.
We like both cars. I will admit that the Mazda is a much younger/sleeker car. The Outback I expect to see older people driving.
I didn't see it, but if kids are a concern, you can easily fit two car seats in either car, but with the Outback the passenger doesn't have to sit on the dash to get the car seat in the back. There is also more room for kids junk in the Outback as it has a larger cargo space.
Before getting the Outback I looked at the WRX and it has less room than the outback or the Mazda 3.
Hope that helps.
Klayfish wrote:93EXCivic wrote:The styling is definitely polarizing. While the grill isn't my favorite, I'm on the side of liking it. For those who don't, there's always the previous gen car, which was more conservative.Klayfish wrote:IT IS SO UGLY!
MS3 are just WRX's minus the AWD. Very similar styling wise. I drove one when they first came out and was thinking of trading in my mazdaspeed miata, but really wasn't all that impressed.
mndsm wrote: For the record, the black ones are faster, the Cosmic blue ones are cursed.
Funny, with MSM's the Titanium Gray ones are cursed, the Velocity Red ones attract the most attention, but the Lava Orange Metallic ones are the fastest.
Do all cars have a cursed color or only mazdaspeed vehicles?
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