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Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 11:47 a.m.

I got one of these in my bucket of turbos https://www.ebay.com/itm/CZ-C14-Turbo-for-JOHN-DEERE-2700-10022524-Engine-Z1203-/282011429668

I can't really find much about it, other than what it originally came on.  Usually you can find a general engine displacement range, or a turbo map or something, all I seem to find are Chinese or Czech websites.  

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
11/10/20 11:56 a.m.

Brush up on your Czech and contact customer service!

http://www.czas.cz/download/turbo/Catalogue_%20CZ%20Turbo%20CHRA.pdf

Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter)
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/10/20 11:58 a.m.

Pulse jet?

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 12:12 p.m.
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) said:

Pulse jet?

I do remember someone (Colin Furze?) making a tubo into a jet engine in order to burn propane quick enough for the tank's temp loss could cool a beer cooler.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
11/10/20 12:14 p.m.

Put it on a little engine, like a motorcycle.  What displacement was it intended for?

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
11/10/20 12:24 p.m.

Pick up three more and run one per cylinder on a Miata.

 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 12:24 p.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

Put it on a little engine, like a motorcycle.  What displacement was it intended for?

Diesel tractor engine, from what I can tell

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/003/7/1/3711-john-deere-2700.html

Engine Detail
Zetor
turbocharged diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement: 256.3 ci
4.2 L
Bore/Stroke: 4.13x4.72 inches
105 x 120 mm
Rated Power (ECE R24): 82 hp
61.1 kW
Rated RPM: 2200
Starter volts: 12

 

Edit: Other than the low RPM, that's not far off from the engine in my Mustang

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
11/10/20 12:41 p.m.

would work ok on a 1.5-1.8 liter engine

angusmf
angusmf Reader
11/10/20 12:47 p.m.

Um...let's double back to the bucket of turbos, shall we? Are we all supposed to have one of those?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/10/20 1:16 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) said:

Pulse jet?

I do remember someone (Colin Furze?) making a tubo into a jet engine in order to burn propane quick enough for the tank's temp loss could cool a beer cooler.

That's an old, old one! Seriously, it even predates Colin's YouTube channel by a decade. 

The jet powered beer coolerwww.asciimation.co.nz › beer

Colin has made jets out of turbos, I think he just did one recently.

bluej (Forum Supporter)
bluej (Forum Supporter) UberDork
11/10/20 1:33 p.m.
angusmf said:

Um...let's double back to the bucket of turbos, shall we? Are we all supposed to have one of those?

They're on a shelf (labeled "boost dept."), so not a bucket, but yeah. I'd be surprised if many of us don't have a collection of random turbos/superchargers/nitrous.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PowerDork
11/10/20 1:49 p.m.

Ok so we tuck it away under the bodywork on a Goldwing, stick some little nitrous bottles in the saddlebags, head out to the nearest dragstrip on bike night and start collecting money from guys on GSXRs who think they can beat the "grandpa bike" in the quarter mile.

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/10/20 1:59 p.m.

Once again Nonack is the winner

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
11/10/20 3:40 p.m.

I've been dreaming of a V2203 powered "something" for a while. This would be a good performance turbo on there. A turbo diesel miata would go perfectly in my fleet.

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/10/20 3:50 p.m.

That was allegedly off of a Generac generator of unknown size to me.  It showed up with an old roommate who worked there as an intern and it became friends with the rest of my derelict turbos, which now you have.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 4:06 p.m.

In reply to RacetruckRon :

Did you or he clean it?  It looks like it was never run.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/10/20 4:14 p.m.

When you have a bucket full of turbos the answer is compound charging from smallest to largest. 

That's how 260hp E85 1.3l geo metros happen. 

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/10/20 4:19 p.m.

In reply to Mr_Asa :

Pretty sure it was a new unit that was a desk ornament.  He sat next to one of the engineers that was the turbo design and sizing guru.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 4:21 p.m.

In reply to RacetruckRon :

That would explain it.  I wonder if there's anything wrong with it.  From my experience desk ornaments usually have a fatal flaw somewhere.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman SuperDork
11/10/20 4:43 p.m.
Patrick (Forum Supporter) said:

Once again Nonack is the winner

I really wish we had a go fund me for all his crazy ideas because I know he'd follow through with them. 

03Panther
03Panther Dork
11/10/20 5:10 p.m.

I actually need one about half that size... for a John Deere, coincidentally! If anyone knows of one Really cheap? (For a 16 hp n/a 3 cyl. Yanmar )

Also thinking’s about a future project... a 3 turbo 3 cyl with 25 cc per cyl. Already has a bullit proof bottom end, and upgradeable  FI.  3 small ones would suit the cool factor, but a twin compound setup would prolly be best.

the 750 cc has 75 HP as is, has been boosted to 110 hp reliably by others on a 100% stock engine

i know absolutely nothing about sizing. If this sidetracks Mr. Asa’s post , I’ll start one. But I know it be a good place to start!

For your reading pleasure. 

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/the-next-project-gas-turbine-content/48381/page1/

And I thought board membership required a stock of turbochargers on the shelf. I'm sure I read that in the rules somewhere.

 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/10/20 6:04 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) :

You get the turbo bucket with your Challenge T-shirt, right?  That's how I got mine.

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
11/10/20 6:56 p.m.
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) said:

And I thought board membership required a stock of turbochargers on the shelf. I'm sure I read that in the rules somewhere.

If I go pull one off my car and put it on my shelf, does that count? I don't want to be kicked off, please sirs.

barefootskater (Shaun)
barefootskater (Shaun) UberDork
11/10/20 10:03 p.m.

Once, for like two weeks, I owned two turbos at the same time. Closest I've been to a bucket. 
 

Nonacks idea is great, except for the price of used goldwings these days. 
 

My first thought is boost an acvw, but that's just me. And because I could do it with stock parts, a soldering iron, some jb weld, and some exhaust scraps. Up to about 8psi or so. 

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