Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
5/8/23 12:37 p.m.
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We faced a bit of a quandary: Our Porsche 997 wore its original, pristine paint, yet we’d like to track the car. How could we prevent sandblasting the front of our baby?

The answer is paint protection film–also known as PPF. This product has become extremely popular as it’s removable and a lot more durable than it used to be. …

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z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
5/8/23 1:12 p.m.

Our of curiosity, I had PPF installed on the bumper and headlights of the BRZ. Just the normal 3M PPF. But my detail guy said there is also a thicker version designed for track work to add more protection, since I don't plan on tracking the BRZ I didn't go for that. 

Did you guys go with the standard, or thicker film? 

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/9/23 8:05 a.m.

My cayman is covered with an "Autox" package. I wish I did the whole thing now because coming across country I took a rock to the roof and it chipped.

Hood, front fenders, headlights, fronts of the mirrors, door handles, and the fronts of the rear wheel arches was the package. 

5x across country and the hood has been saved multiple times.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UberDork
5/9/23 9:15 a.m.

I considered PPF when I bought my Miata. I couldn't get over the price and the fact that it never looks as crisp and reflective as well-cared-for paint. At the time I got quoted $1500 for just a front protection kit that supposedly lasts 10 years. For that money, I could just take the bumper and hood off to a paint shop to be resprayed every 10 years, or at least that's what I told myself. Instead I keep the paint waxed, I drive defensively and maintain good following distances, especially avoiding dump trucks. In 2 years/20k miles of daily driving on crowded Atlanta interstates, my notoriously thin Mazda paint is now sprinkled with a chip here and there, though you have to look hard for them. So I am still indifferent on PPF. If you put crazy highway mileage on your car or tailgate like a Nissan Altima driver, maybe it's worth it. I may still DIY the headlights or perhaps the whole bumper.

j_tso
j_tso Dork
5/9/23 9:18 a.m.

Does it come out looking as glossy as paint or does it have a plasticky look? Are there risks when removing it?

After reading the costs in the ceramic coat thread, this looks like the better option.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UberDork
5/9/23 9:30 a.m.

In reply to j_tso :

In my opinion, as someone who has painted cars, it does not look as good. Reflections are blurry and not crisp. Supposedly you can polish PPF, but you have to be extra careful not to wear through. 

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/9/23 9:31 a.m.

In reply to j_tso :

Only way you can tell is touch it with a fingernail or if I don't clean the seams of wax.

scardeal
scardeal SuperDork
5/9/23 9:54 a.m.

How does PPF interact w/ vinyl wraps?  Over?  Under? Incompatible?

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
5/9/23 12:06 p.m.
j_tso said:

Does it come out looking as glossy as paint or does it have a plasticky look? Are there risks when removing it?

After reading the costs in the ceramic coat thread, this looks like the better option.

If I didn't tell you my BRZ had it on the bumper/headlights, you'd never know. Granted many detailers put the ceramic coating on top of the PPF.

If you can do it yourself, sure. Doing PPF over an entire car is in the $4-6k range at least in OKC, if you live in a more expensive area I can see it being much more (if you pay a pro). And like I said, many detailers will then put ceramic coatings on top of the PPF for extra protection, shine, and of course it makes it so much easier to clean. 

IKR
IKR New Reader
5/9/23 1:53 p.m.

I debated the PPF for quite a while but I bought a decent paint spray gun that I've been meaning to use on a project car for quite some time and I've always wanted to learn to paint decently after I watched my wife's cousin quickly and professionally spot paint a repair on her car. With the cost of PPF I may do the very front in PPF for the track but since I don't have a car with top tier expensive paint I'm good with spot painting as needed.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
5/9/23 2:52 p.m.
IKR said:

I debated the PPF for quite a while but I bought a decent paint spray gun that I've been meaning to use on a project car for quite some time and I've always wanted to learn to paint decently after I watched my wife's cousin quickly and professionally spot paint a repair on her car. With the cost of PPF I may do the very front in PPF for the track but since I don't have a car with top tier expensive paint I'm good with spot painting as needed.

If you don't track often, I would probably just go the painters tape route.

QuikMcshifterson
QuikMcshifterson New Reader
5/9/23 5:07 p.m.

A few years ago I did the front of my track Miata and it looked... ok. It was WAY more work than I anticipated but the hood and fenders came out pretty well. The front bumper was much, much more difficult. That said, it worked amazingly well.

I took the fenders and bumper film off and was going to remove the hood but the guy I sold it to asked me to please leave it.

Overall, it looks pretty good but up close I could see the installation imperfections (again, my first time doing it). From 20 feet, hard to tell at all.

I'd say the hood, front fenders and front bumper took me about 6-8 hours but if you do a few of them, you'll cut that time down and the installs will look better. Like everything else, there's a trick to be learned here and there. Also, the different films DO apply differently and I found thicker film to be more difficult to apply

 

karplus2
karplus2 GRM+ Memberand Reader
5/9/23 9:55 p.m.

I did the PPF on my G70. Full front of the car plus mirrors. It wasn't worth it. I regret it. I managed to get a rock chip under it on the front lip of my hood. It was a biggish rock that came off a gravel truck as I passed it on the interstate. Now to touch it up I have to remove the PPF. It has also started peeling into two places. One of which could be trimmed to look OK, the other looks bad. It was installed by a highly regarded local wrap shop so I don't think it was installed incorrectly. 

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