carczar_84
carczar_84 Reader
4/15/17 12:13 p.m.

So I took the BRZ out this week to a TNIA event at Thunderhill Raceway here in Northern California. It was a really fun night with a good group of people, and I had a great time.

The car handled the evening very well, but I think I might have cooked the brakes just a little. On a side note, it might have something to do with trying to hunt down a guy in a pdk 911, that made for a really fun last session of the night!

Anyways, the brakes were bled prior to the tracknight, and the pedal is still firm, but the brakes just feel wooden, like they have no bite. I'm figuring I probably glazed the stock pads, but just want to get a second opinion from the hive. Any easy tricks to get rid of the issue if it is a glazing issue?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/17 12:33 p.m.

Pads and or the rotors

carczar_84
carczar_84 Reader
4/15/17 1:27 p.m.

If I run the brakes through a "bed-in" can I burn the glaze back off?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/17 1:48 p.m.

That's the first thing to try, bed them again. It might work. I've done it successfully in the past.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/15/17 2:15 p.m.

Back when i had no dollars i had a piece of sandpaper glued to the work bench that I would renew glazed pads on

NickD
NickD SuperDork
4/15/17 2:29 p.m.
patgizz wrote: Back when i had no dollars i had a piece of sandpaper glued to the work bench that I would renew glazed pads on

I was thinking sand the pads and maybe machine the rotors and see if that did anything

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
4/15/17 2:53 p.m.

Cooked them once, you'll cook them again. If you are going to do track days, start investigating better pads.

carczar_84
carczar_84 Reader
4/15/17 3:15 p.m.

I will be upgrading the pads for further track use, but I want to try to get these back to serviceable for the street.

I'll give them a bed-in later today, and if that doesn't help, I'll break out the old sand paper!

Thanks for the help guys.

carczar_84
carczar_84 Reader
4/15/17 3:36 p.m.

On kind of the same note, does anyone have any experience with upgraded pads for the BRZ/FRS?
I know it would be somewhat of a compromise, but something that can better handle the odd track day or two and still not be a screaming mess on the street?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/17 4:11 p.m.

Light sanding of the pads and take a da to the rotors may bring some life back to them. But as others have said you should look at upgrading the pads to a better pad designed for track use.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/17 4:15 p.m.
carczar_84 wrote: On kind of the same note, does anyone have any experience with upgraded pads for the BRZ/FRS? I know it would be somewhat of a compromise, but something that can better handle the odd track day or two and still not be a screaming mess on the street?

Best way to get this sort of compromise is to work on ducting. If you can keep the pads cooler on track, then you'll be able to run a more street-oriented compound.

I used to run the Performance Friction PCF97 as an all-around pad for the tarmac rally car. No matter what, they always, alway stopped the car. They'd destroy two sets of rotors for every set of pads and they'd sometimes leave the most incredible mess on the wheels...but they'd always work.

Tom1200
Tom1200 HalfDork
4/15/17 7:38 p.m.

My initial thought is if the brakes don't fade on track and the only issue is the glazing then how much do the pads cost. If they're cheap then replace them after each track day. My old Showroom Stock Miata did double duty, I used a street pad on it and just pitched them after two events. I only did 4 races a year so it only cost $75-100 a year.

I'd ask some of the other FRS guys what they use for dual duty.

Tom

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