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Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/15/18 12:11 p.m.

Got a text asking if I could cut out a cat on a 1996 Explorer Saturday. Since that means I get to weld I said sure without asking questions.

Yesterday I asked why they wanted it out and was told that it ran poorly and wouldn't restart after running all day.  I'm thinking it's not the cat but don't know what it is. Btw this information is being past through a middle man.

What says the hive?

TheRX7Project
TheRX7Project Reader
3/15/18 12:17 p.m.

I say cut the cat out anyway (keep it and scrap it for your time) and see if it fixes the problem.

I'm going to guess it's a bad temp sensor or a totally clogged air filter.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/18 12:32 p.m.

I say unbolt the exhaust upstream of the cat first to see if exhaust restriction is actually a problem...it probably isn't.

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/18 12:34 p.m.

I'd change the fuel and air filters, check the plugs/wires before going at the exhaust.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
3/15/18 12:43 p.m.

Everybody wants to blame the cat, but it is rarely the problem.

Daylan C
Daylan C UltraDork
3/15/18 12:50 p.m.

The cat is always the problem. Little E36 M3 ate my homework again.

Ransom
Ransom GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/15/18 1:01 p.m.

Don't remove the freaking cat for no reason. Please. (I recognize that this is wasn't your guess to begin with, just have issues with both bad diagnosis and removing a device that makes a car run cleaner with virtually  no downside unless it's actually failed, at which point my take would be to replace it, not remove it, because don't E36 M3 where you eat)

I agree with Stefan for the things that probably want changing anyway. If that doesn't do it, try testing fuel pressure in case it's a dying pump.

CEL? Codes? Not certain on whether model year '96 Explorers were OBD2 if they rolled off the line in '95...

My condolences for doing this with "help" from those of us in the peanut gallery, through a middleman. I cross my fingers for you.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/15/18 1:49 p.m.

I say clean the maf.

I say that because it is always recommended for 90s cars and I've literally never seen it do any good.

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/15/18 2:01 p.m.

I had an Explorer of about that vintage as a company car. 5.0 V8.  I didn’t get it assigned to me new.  Me: “this thing has a really dirty air filter.  Can I grab a new one at Advance and put it on my expenses?”

Boss: “That’s probably not a good idea.”

I put 10000 miles on that thing with NO filter.  Take that K&N.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
3/15/18 2:02 p.m.

Wheel bearings.  The Left Front one, in particular.  99% of the time, that's it.

Dirtydog
Dirtydog GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/15/18 2:03 p.m.

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Check the fuel pump, or engine coolant temp sensor.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/15/18 4:08 p.m.

It probably needs new points or something.  Or maybe apex seals. :)

 

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
3/15/18 4:29 p.m.

LS swap it.

sergio
sergio Reader
3/15/18 4:33 p.m.

The timer jumped a couple tooth’s 

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/15/18 5:42 p.m.

Got a cracked timing case cover. It's broken a couple of teeth off the timing gear. The radiator's damaged at the core. It's got a cracked water pump and a fractured injector line.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/15/18 5:57 p.m.

Don't forget to check the turbo encabulator. They make a nasty mess when they let go.

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
3/15/18 6:17 p.m.

In reply to EastCoastMojo :

Well, what does all that mean?

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/15/18 6:20 p.m.
Robbie said:

I say clean the maf.

I say that because it is always recommended for 90s cars and I've literally never seen it do any good.

My 99 Forrester L.

Went out to start it one day and the transmission light was on. Cleaned the MAF (thanks internet) and it ran fine again afterwards. 

Daylan C
Daylan C UltraDork
3/15/18 6:23 p.m.

Float must be stuck in the carb.

Sparkydog
Sparkydog Reader
3/15/18 6:31 p.m.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/15/18 6:35 p.m.

In reply to dculberson :

24 hours?

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/18 6:37 p.m.

Probably fuel pump taking a dump.

 

Have you tried setting a fire under it?

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
3/15/18 6:45 p.m.
CyberEric
CyberEric HalfDork
3/15/18 6:50 p.m.

This is funny. But also...

Apparently some guys are cutting cats out of other people's cars commando style by jacking them up and cutting them with a chain saw, then selling them. It made me wonder if this car was stolen. 

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/15/18 6:51 p.m.

In reply to fasted58 :

OK!

 

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