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914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
10/17/12 10:29 a.m.

Not political.

This 15 year old girl's story is told to broach the subject of bullying with your kids, to show how easy it is to bully and the consequences.

I'm a little slow on the pick up, perhaps this is an old story.

Glad there was no Facebook when I was a kid.

http://blog.timesunion.com/rightnow/authorities-investigating-suicide-of-bullied-girl-from-video/3373/

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/17/12 10:36 a.m.

Yep. Not a first time thing. Even some crime dramas have touched on the subject. Bullying is a serious problem that the government is beginning to address, but the are higher priorities currently. Thats as political as I'll get.

Bullying = not cool

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/17/12 10:37 a.m.

Bullying = not cool.

The importance of good parenting also needs to be stressed. In the case of the bully, AND Amanda.

BARNCA
BARNCA Dork
10/17/12 11:37 a.m.

not a whole lot bothers me. but that did...

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
10/17/12 11:53 a.m.
BARNCA wrote: not a whole lot bothers me. but that did...

+1.

BTW, Dan- that story is very new. As in yesterday... Very sad.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof UberDork
10/17/12 12:01 p.m.

This has been all over the news here for about a week. It is very sad, but there is more to the story.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltraDork
10/17/12 12:01 p.m.

I'm pretty darn sure Bill Clinton signed an anti-bullying bill or started a hotline number to report bullying when he was in office.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/17/12 12:03 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Bullying = not cool. The importance of good parenting also needs to be stressed. In the case of the bully, AND Amanda.

I 110% agree with Celica. Bad parenting tends to produce bad kids which can (not always) produce bad adults.

Spitfire, I think I remember that.

Zombiy, there always is especially when media is involved.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/17/12 12:03 p.m.
Zomby Woof wrote: This has been all over the news here for about a week. It is very sad, but there's more to the story.

This.

I would never say that anyone deserved to go out this way... but there's certainly quite a bit more to the story. Bad parenting of the girl likely plays a much larger part in this than the bullying.

Chicken vs. egg.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/12 12:04 p.m.

That's heart breaking.

But "bullying" and "stalking" are being way too kind.

Child rape. Child abuse. Assault. Battery. Molestation. Libel. Slander. Child endangerment. Criminal trespass. Reckless endangerment. Child abandonment.

Murder.

Grizz
Grizz Dork
10/17/12 12:04 p.m.

I'm going to tone my opinion down to "once I found out why she was being bullied I kinda stopped caring".

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/17/12 12:05 p.m.
Grizz wrote: I'm going to tone my opinion down to "once I found out why she was being bullied I kinda stopped caring".

Really?!?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/17/12 12:06 p.m.
SVreX wrote: That's heart breaking. But "bullying" and "stalking" are being way too kind. Child rape. Child abuse. Assault. Battery. Molestation. Libel. Slander. Child endangerment. Criminal trespass. Reckless endangerment. Child abandonment. Murder.

+1000. No one should have to go thru that.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/12 12:06 p.m.

In reply to Grizz:

What does that mean? I don't get it.

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte Dork
10/17/12 12:09 p.m.

Its to bad some people are so vulnerable. If i was king of the world justice would be different but it would more closely resemble vengeance. not good.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/17/12 12:10 p.m.
SVreX wrote: In reply to Grizz: What does that mean? I don't get it.

It means that she wasn't the angel the media is playing her to be.

This happens to kids/teenagers all the time at no fault/provocation of their own and you don't hear about it. You're only hearing about this one because she happens to be a cute girl. It's a "convenient" (weird term, i know) face to bring awareness, but perhaps not the best example.

Mainly because "Crappy parenting yields unstable young girl with questionable morals or lack thereof with probable drug problems destined for a life on the stripper pole" doesn't really have the same ring to it.

Please note that i am not defending bullying of any kind.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/17/12 12:13 p.m.

Who says I don't hear about it? I was a troubled kid myself, and know many (still know many).

Doesn't give any excuse for being an azzhatt.

Grizz
Grizz Dork
10/17/12 12:14 p.m.
SVreX wrote: In reply to Grizz: What does that mean? I don't get it.

Excessive stupidity on her part quite frankly. The bleach came around because she was being blackmailed by someone she showed her tits to on the internet, the second time it was because she started dating someone who she knew had a girlfriend.

So far most everyone seems to treat her like she's innocent in all of this, when as far as I can tell it was largely her fault.

dculberson
dculberson SuperDork
10/17/12 12:16 p.m.
Grizz wrote: I'm going to tone my opinion down to "once I found out why she was being bullied I kinda stopped caring".

Good to know that terrible people aren't excluded from posting here.

Okay, I'm being a little harsh, but seriously bad things aren't justified if someone is a less than perfect person. If you REALLY don't care then don't post here, but it's obvious you do care and feel she deserved it. Otherwise why post? Why say you stopped caring? What did you hope to gain by making this comment? Is the world a better place for it?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/17/12 12:17 p.m.

In reply to Grizz:

Bad decision making in no way excuses the behavior of others.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/17/12 12:18 p.m.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
10/17/12 12:19 p.m.
SVreX wrote: Who says I don't hear about it? I was a troubled kid myself, and know many (still know many). Doesn't give any excuse for being an azzhatt.

I meant via the media... we all know sad stories of bullying.

Grizz
Grizz Dork
10/17/12 12:23 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote: In reply to Grizz: Bad decision making in no way excuses the behavior of others.

I'm not saying it does, but that works both ways you know. Why does the behavior of others excuse bad decision making?

And in the interest of not having a locked thread to my name, I'm not gonna post in this anymore.

dculberson
dculberson SuperDork
10/17/12 12:26 p.m.

Grizz, A 15 year old showing her breasts to someone does not make it "her fault" (YOUR words) that a person blackmailed her and harassed her so badly that her family moved.

That is the very definition of "blaming the victim." You seriously should re-think that one.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/17/12 12:28 p.m.

In reply to Grizz:

I understand what you're saying, and think you worded it badly. I can understand your mindset, but the fact is her bad decision making initiated the bullying that dominoed into a tragic event. We don't really have all the info so we can't be sure it was actually bullying or her bring dramatic. My guess is both and she likely had a preexisting depression problem (of course we won't know). No one will ever know the full truth. Sounds like it wouldn't have happened if the harassment hadn't continued.

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