dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/4/24 9:36 a.m.

My wife was hit last night while on the way home from work. In our nearly brand new Hyundai Ioniq 6 (3100 miles). She was traveling east on a main thoroughfare when a driver exiting a shopping center (headed north) pulled into the side of her. Caught her in the right rear passenger door, quarterpanel and wheel. Other driver pulled over and is insured (2006 Ford F-150). She was about a mile from home so I went down to the scene to keep her company. Cops were called. Police report is (or is being) filed.

For additional background, my wife had an at-fault accident in 2022 and our son (19 y.o) had an at-fault accident in 2023. So I am loath to report this to my insurance company, as our bill is already eye-wateringly expensive. On to the questions.

  1. Next step - What do I do now? Call the other insurance company and deal directly with them?
  2. Repair facility - If the other company is paying (which I certainly hope is the case), am I free to use the collision center I want?
  3. Diminished value - This car is the most expensive car we've ever bought. I'm incredibly frustrated that it is now an "accident car". Can I pursue diminished value?

Thanks in advance for the help and advice.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UltraDork
1/4/24 10:29 a.m.

File with the other company

Yes

Yes, but you need to do it the right way, which is have a diminished value company write the report, will cost @$500 for that service.

 

Call the other company and go from there, that is the first step.

Sonic
Sonic UberDork
1/4/24 10:35 a.m.

Agree with Steve on all points.  Liability should be clear here.  Try to go through them first directly.   Once repairs are complete then you can work on potential DIV

camopaint0707
camopaint0707 Reader
1/4/24 10:36 a.m.

If the other guy isn't arguing fault, then call his insurance and go from there.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/4/24 10:37 a.m.
Steve_Jones said:

File with the other company

Yes

Yes, but you need to do it the right way, which is have a diminished value company write the report, will cost @$500 for that service.

Call the other company and go from there, that is the first step.

Thanks you both.

Steve - Should I just google "diminished value company and start there?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
1/4/24 10:42 a.m.

FWIW, Nicole was lightly hit a few years ago and getting diminished value (in Florida) was relatively easy. It took a few phone calls complaining, but finally the other insurance company said "okay fine, how about $3k." This was on a 5-year-old car worth maybe $20k, so I thought that was close enough to fair and called it a day.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/4/24 11:22 a.m.

Thanks Tom. That is great to hear. I hope we have a similar experience. 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UltraDork
1/4/24 1:07 p.m.
dyintorace said:
Steve_Jones said:

File with the other company

Yes

Yes, but you need to do it the right way, which is have a diminished value company write the report, will cost @$500 for that service.

Call the other company and go from there, that is the first step.

Thanks you both.

Steve - Should I just google "diminished value company and start there?

Add Florida to the string :)

On a newer car I would 100% use a company and not just guess an amount.  Work does not need to be completed, they just need the estimate from the shop as it's a formula. I made a call, they called the shop and did it all, that's the easy button.  I had the insurance company agree with his number, then said "Plus the $400 the report cost" and they were ok with it.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/4/24 1:55 p.m.

Thanks! Just to be clear, I engage the DV expert after the car has gone to my shop of choice? 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UltraDork
1/4/24 2:31 p.m.

In reply to dyintorace :

Yes, good chance the shop has one they recommend

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/4/24 5:55 p.m.

Don't be shocked if the at fault driver's insurance company gives you the runaround. I had a police report where it clearly stated the other driver was at fault and provided it to their insurance company on the day of the collision. 10 days later I filed with my insurance because they were still giving me the runaround. Suddenly after my insurance got involved they wanted to take care of me.  His insurance company has ads with a character named "Jake".

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Dork
1/4/24 11:09 p.m.

If there is one thing I've learned from having various cars smacked into by bad drivers, never assume that the other driver/insurance will admit fault until you hear it out of their mouths and they agree to pay up. If you don't hear that right away, get your company involved. They should not ding you if the other party was at fault. Twice I've had the other party try to claim my vehicle was at fault when they were on the wrong side road. I also had one who drove on the sidewalk and hit my truck in the driveway who wouldn't admit fault. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/5/24 7:19 a.m.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:

Don't be shocked if the at fault driver's insurance company gives you the runaround. I had a police report where it clearly stated the other driver was at fault and provided it to their insurance company on the day of the collision. 10 days later I filed with my insurance because they were still giving me the runaround. Suddenly after my insurance got involved they wanted to take care of me.  His insurance company has ads with a character named "Jake".

Same thing happened to my parents.  Sometimes trying to do it the easy way isn't the easy way. I always file with mine first. The protections are huge in a case like this. 
 

 

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
1/5/24 7:50 a.m.

Lots of people change their stories 24 hrs later, usually after getting 'advice' from the internet or their brother's wife's second cousin who is a self-proclaimed expert on the subject. 

You can ALWAYS choose your own repair shop, though some companies can be overly forceful trying to convince you to use their in-network shops.

Diminished value claims vary by state. Any advice given here from personal experience isn't worth much as a result. Some states don't even recognize it. Others have a pre-set formula for it based on the repair cost, age of vehicle, etc.  You can usually ask the insurance company what is required to file a DV claim, believe it or not.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/5/24 8:57 a.m.

Thanks again everyone. I called the other insurance company yesterday and filed a claim. I'm awaiting a call from their adjuster. 

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/5/24 11:52 a.m.

Quick update. Just heard from their adjuster. "We've accepted liability for this accident". So far so good.

SKJSS (formerly Klayfish)
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) UltimaDork
1/5/24 8:53 p.m.

All 50 states recognize the right to make a DV claim, but they shy away from determining how it's done.  Every company does it a little different, though they're all based on similar guidelines.  I wrote the DV guidelines for the last two companies I worked for.  There is a "formula" that's used, but the figures in the formula have some subjectivity so it's not an exact science.  At least for me, I always taught people to use the formula as a guide and not a concrete rule.  

You can hire one of the DV experts, just shop carefully.  Just like any other business there are some that are better than others.  You can ask the carrier to reimburse the cost of the person you hire and they might.  They're not required though, so be prepared.  If you want, feel free to share the estimate with us here and we'll be happy to help.  The dollar amount of the estimate isn't the key, it's the parts replaced or repaired, along with age and mileage. 

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
1/6/24 3:33 p.m.

Don't borrow troubles unnecessarily.  The claim has started, and if it goes well, let it go well.  

 

Some adjusters and companies are awful, some are fine.  Wait and see what you're dealing with.

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
1/6/24 4:29 p.m.

I'm not sure how it works in FL, but I can tell you in AL, GA, and SC it made no difference whether I made a claim with my provider or not. Future different companies were able to see a "claim" across state lines that was associated with my policy even when I was not at fault and switched insurance companies.  
 

Hope it goes well for you. 

johndej
johndej UltraDork
5/16/24 8:52 a.m.

In reply to SV reX :

This - my wife and I have had two cars hit by other drivers who were at fault. Went through the other person's insurance and were paid out by them, never spoke to my own provider. Both still showed up as claims I was involved with with my own company and rates went up a bit.

mfennell
mfennell HalfDork
5/16/24 9:25 a.m.

I've done it both ways and, in the future, will always engage my own company (USAA).  Obviously, this will be specific to the insurance company but I know how it will go with USAA while I have no idea what will happen with random-insurance company and it's not worth the aggravation.

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