In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :
Just buy the aftermarket mount... easiest/cheapest solution. Drilling/tapping isn't hard. Getting the holes perfectly located/aligned is.
My wife has the same basic gun and we're running an aftermarket mount... I don't recall which one off top of my head, but it works fine. Hers has the mount over the ejection port as that particular model also came with irons.
In reply to Rodan :
I'm ok with buying an aftermarket mount, but the thing is none are going to be a simple bolt on.
Since mine was this special model with the Factory Riton optic, it only has these two holes threaded in the rear, which are a totally different pattern than the other factory threads like yours.
So, I'm thinking if I get the aftermarket mount like I linked, and mount it to the rear using one of my existing threads, then I only need to drill & tap one hole.
The over the ejection port mounts look nice, I like that location, but the forward threads for those are blind hole threads, and that is not something I want to attempt personally.
In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :
My mistake... I thought the one you linked was for that specific model.
In reply to Rodan :
Unfortunately not. :(
In reply to dean1484 :
That's purdy
In reply to 84FSP :
The DWX or the Czechmate?
We've had an Advantage Arms .22 conversion for my wife's G19 for over 20 years. Since the G44 came out, I'd thought about selling the conversion and buying one, but the mixed reviews held me back. I finally decided the other day to just order an aftermarket frame for the conversion kit... Ended up with one from Grit Grips. I was initially looking at the PSA Dagger, but there was no clear consensus on compatibility, so I spent a little more on the one from GG. I like the texture, but my wife still thinks it's "weird"... Running well so far, as good as it ever did on the G19 frame.
Does anyone here have experience with a Glock 44? I am looking for my 1st pistol.
In reply to Noddaz :
Rodan is probibly your man. I only have one Glock. A Glock 45. Glocks are the Chevrolet of the gun world. They are reliable as gravity. They just work and there is a huge aftermarket for them.
I do have a Ruger SR22. I don't know how it compares directly to the Glock 44 but it is a good shooting pistol. The Glock 44 does have the advantage of allowing you to eventually step up to a Glock in 9mm. This would keep the grip angle and the battery of arm's very similar to each other so the transition would be very easy. The Glock grip angle is rather unique to Glock. No good or bad just unique to Glock.
I would test fire a full sized Glock before committing to one. They are great pistols but the grip angle is not ideal for many. I've had/shot G19, G17, G34, and G20 and didn't really like shooting them much because of the grip angle... have to bend wrist down a little bit to get angle right - they just do not point naturally for many people. Interestingly, I love my G42 compact pistol and can shoot it better than any full sized Glock and as good as most other full size pistols I actually can shoot well (HK USP Expert, Sig P320 X-Ten). So the G42/G43 would be the only Glock models for me.
Plenty of other great 22LR pistols out there to try... would suggest finding a gun store/range that lets you rent and try a few different ones out to see which one works best for you.
One I'd recommend looking into is the Taurus TX22 line... specifically the new gen 2 T.O.R.O or Competition models. T.O.R.O is ~$300 and is optics ready with threaded 4.6" barrel and 22rd/16rd magazines...
I'm really not a Glock person... as a 1911 shooter, the grip angle never worked for me. That's why I ended up with S&W M&Ps for striker guns.
My wife was issued a G19 for work, so to maintain her manual of arms I bought her a G19 to train with, and the above conversion unit for cheap practice. In retirement, she can now shoot whatever she wants, but old habits are hard to break and she still likes her G19.
I don't have any personal experience with the Glock 44, but there's a lot of discussion of reliability problems around the 'net. Since I already had the .22 conversion, I decided not to buy one.
A .22 is a good choice as a first handgun, if it doesn't need to be a defensive pistol. As Vracer111 suggested, a trip to a range that rents a variety of guns is a very good idea. The Ruger MK4 series is very good, though a little more expensive for a .22. You can choose from the original grip angle (similar to Glock) or the 22/45 versions with a 1911 (straight) grip angle.
Generally, something designed as a .22 is going to work more reliably than something designed as a centerfire and then made into a .22 (Glock 44, Sig 322, etc). That said, my Colt/Walther 1911 .22 has been pretty good, and it's a little cheaper than a Glock 44.
In reply to Rodan :
Are those rebranded GSG/ATI 22s?
Funny story, I got my wife one so she could move onto bigger better 1911s. She likes it but never cared to move on in the 1911 family
In reply to Antihero :
No, the GSG/Sig is a different gun, though they look very similar. I hear good things about those as well, but haven't shot one. The "Colt" is licensed and made by Walther/Umarex.
Do you guys go out and shoot in bad weather? I use to do it a lot more but lately I have been happy not to. I still have not taken my chezmate out. I have a mozen I need to range test. It is not that I don't like going to the range it is that I am getting less interested in being uncomfortable at the range. I usually go to the range to either have fun or with a purpose. They can be mutually inclusive but if I am un comfortable the fun level goes down and if I am trying to accomplish something the threshold of "good enough" gets lower.
In reply to dean1484 :
I have a match on Friday, and some testing to do before then... so I'll be shooting in cold and wind this week. I draw the line at rain/snow... no need to be miserable.
Vracer111 said:I would test fire a full sized Glock before committing to one. They are great pistols but the grip angle is not ideal for many. I've had/shot G19, G17, G34, and G20 and didn't really like shooting them much because of the grip angle... have to bend wrist down a little bit to get angle right - they just do not point naturally for many people. Interestingly, I love my G42 compact pistol and can shoot it better than any full sized Glock and as good as most other full size pistols I actually can shoot well (HK USP Expert, Sig P320 X-Ten). So the G42/G43 would be the only Glock models for me.
Agree the Glock model 42 was a pleasant surprise. I was resigned to the fact that I would sacrifice comfort and accuracy for size, but the 42 is fun to shoot and accurate.
Anyone looking for a .22 pistol should not overlook the Browning Buck Mark, with excellent ergonomics and accuracy.
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
The Buckmark is what I ended up with
Does anyone know if a forged aluminum frame Hi-Power was ever offered by anyone?
Finally got the optic on my new pistol - came with post inserts for various different optics but the RMR pattern post inserts were too big in diameter to drop in the slide hole locations. Little bit of gunsmithing with drill and 400grit sandpaper got them to right diameter to fit in the holes they needed to.
How I have the FK BRNO PSD setup is a bit chunky, right @ 3lbs with Holosun PID Dual light/laser, Holosun 507 Competition red-dot, FK BRNO optional ghost ring iron sight setup, and empty magazine in 10mm configuration. Even though it's a large pistol, it fits nicely in the hand ... grip feels similar to an HK USP, but bit better conforming to the hand. Really like that large window on the 507 Competition - so much easier to find the reticle quickly compared to an RMR [viewing window is nearly twice as large as the regular RMR]. The adjustable reticle with the dot and 32MOA circle selected also perfectly matches up with the rear iron of the FK ghost ring setup. Have all three barrels for it, so can shoot the 7.5 FK, 10mm Auto/40S&W, and 9mm Luger. Really looking forward to shooting it...
Hot of the Facebook press, Keltec being their goofy selves. New 5.7 pistol (PR57), top loaded via stripper clip.
I like Keltec, I think they make some neat guns, but the choice of top loaded vs mag fed seems extra weird. Still kinda cool though.
In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :
I couldn't find anything on that particular KelTec 5.7, but the P50 is a pretty unique pistol in its own right.
Edit: Found the PR57 on the KelTec website. Interesting.
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
Ahh, yeah I forgot about the P50. Edited my earlier post for more detail.
Reloading via stripper clip is an odd thing, although Kelgren has done that before with the Grendel p10. A 15oz 5.7 is kinda cool though.
KelTec makes cool designs but you can't buy the first run or 2 because they never work. I had like....the first pmr30 in my state and it's only really 90 percent reliable. The p3at was a cool gun too, and I've thought about a KSG-25 loaded with mini shells because it holds something like 40
In reply to Antihero :
Looking at the comments it looks like the stripper clip for the reload gets around current mag limits, and also allows for as slim of a frame as possible. Still ~20 round capavity. I can appreciate the logic.
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