There are exceptions to derp.
Flight Service wrote:
Can someone explicate the old 911s with stunt cages? Are these Dakar rally cars, or mods for driving in modern cities?
Brett_Murphy wrote:Knurled wrote: Solid axles will always be better than independent, because independent can't articulate.They articulate fine, and independently of each other!
Only if you install a Z-bar.
Barring that, you could always go with a de Dion suspension, which offers the camber control advantages of a solid axle, with most of the unsprung weight benefits of independent, with the downside that you may no longer take advantage of drivetrain torque to generate anti squat.
I guess independent is okay for glass smooth surfaces where the suspension doesn't need to have to move very much, if you HAVE to use it.
Knurled wrote: I guess independent is okay for glass smooth surfaces where the suspension doesn't need to have to move very much, if you HAVE to use it.
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1.1 seconds 
Just hand the keys over 
XLR99 wrote:Flight Service wrote:Can someone explicate the old 911s with stunt cages? Are these Dakar rally cars, or mods for driving in modern cities?
Yes and the zombie apocalypse.
ncjay wrote:
How is it that ONE rule when it is on #3050? I don't think some mother berkeleyers can count.
Sometimes....
Okay, that is just wrong.
That is Putin hugging a hug pillow of Crimea's AG, Natalia Poklonskaya.
I think that is enough Internet for one day.
Knurled wrote: I guess independent is okay for glass smooth surfaces where the suspension doesn't need to have to move very much, if you HAVE to use it.
Rally and offroad folks seem to like it. Don't get me wrong, if I was building a rock crawler, I'd want solid axles at both ends.
In reply to Brett_Murphy:
Well... rally, not so much. IRS is generally only used if the car is mid engined (and thus you have to) or the car is homologated with it (and thus you have to).
I can only think of one car that maybe could have had it either way, the rear drive Celicas, and they used solid axles, with Group 4 Escort 4-link suspension design...
Wish I could find the pic I found before, with the spindles (full floater) and hubs and the GIANT diff cover/structural support that clamped across 2/3rd of the back of the thing. Also like a Group 4 Escort...
Home Depot had a big sale on perforated strap:
XLR99 wrote:Flight Service wrote:Can someone explicate the old 911s with stunt cages? Are these Dakar rally cars, or mods for driving in modern cities?
That seems like a bit of overkill but cars that ran in the Safari Rally generally had a bit more front end protection I guess in case there was a zebra or water buffalo on the course.
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