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Duke
Duke MegaDork
3/25/22 7:38 p.m.
Apexcarver said:

So, the p51 is very popular in air racing, why isn't the Corsair? (Or is it and I am just ignorant?)

Easier to source both airframes and engines, easier to streamline, lighter, a bunch of reasons.

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/25/22 7:53 p.m.
Duke said:
Apexcarver said:

So, the p51 is very popular in air racing, why isn't the Corsair? (Or is it and I am just ignorant?)

Easier to source both airframes and engines, easier to streamline, lighter, a bunch of reasons.

 

After the war, one could buy surplus P51s for roughly the value of the fuel in the tanks.

P51s had the benefit of having had a whole lot of production made right before the party was over.

Gary
Gary UberDork
3/25/22 8:18 p.m.

In reply to Scott_H 

Thanks. I removed it the Neanderthal way. laugh 

11GTCS
11GTCS Dork
3/25/22 9:22 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

There were a few but yeah, a lot more surplus P51’s to work with and the liquid cooled engine is indeed more streamlined. 

11GTCS
11GTCS Dork
3/25/22 9:31 p.m.

This sexy beast is the fastest piston engine propeller driven aircraft of all time at 528.33 MPH   Rare Bear is a highly modified F8F Bearcat.

stroker
stroker UberDork
3/25/22 9:42 p.m.
Apexcarver said:

So, the p51 is very popular in air racing, why isn't the Corsair? (Or is it and I am just ignorant?)

The F2G Corsair made after the end of the war in very limited numbers was a very successful air racer.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/25/22 9:54 p.m.

Hard to believe Race 74 has been gone for almost 10 years now.

barefootcyborg5000
barefootcyborg5000 PowerDork
3/25/22 10:04 p.m.

I'm not a fan of Toyota generally, but this is tasty

down the street from my in-laws. I want a mini truck. Bad. 

johndej
johndej Dork
3/25/22 10:35 p.m.

Wild Stang in front of me in the way home from work this evening.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
3/26/22 7:47 a.m.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
3/26/22 7:48 a.m.

Gary
Gary UberDork
3/26/22 4:11 p.m.

NickD
NickD MegaDork
3/26/22 6:25 p.m.

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
3/26/22 10:33 p.m.

Sebring 12 Hours 1969 - Dutch racing driver and actress Liane Engeman at the wheel of the Austin Healey. Co-drivers Janet Guthrie on the left, Donna Mae Mims in the middle. 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
3/26/22 11:01 p.m.
NickD said:

Another car with busted suspension.  Really common around here.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/27/22 2:00 a.m.

Optical illusion at it's finest .

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
3/27/22 8:29 a.m.

Liane Engeman at Bridgehampton 1971  She was instructing at an RRDC Advanced Drivers Clinic.   photo by Marjorie J Giltzow

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
3/27/22 11:20 a.m.

Interesting.

EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter)
EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/27/22 11:29 a.m.

Happy Birthday Hotlink thread! You're 12 years old today!

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
3/27/22 12:37 p.m.
Streetwiseguy said:
NickD said:

Another car with busted suspension.  Really common around here.

My wife always said my "hearse" looked like it had a broken suspension 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
3/27/22 1:26 p.m.
11GTCS said:

In reply to Duke :

There were a few but yeah, a lot more surplus P51’s to work with and the liquid cooled engine is indeed more streamlined. 

The better way to state that is:  Liquid cooled engines "appear" to be be more streamlined.  Once you add in the radiator drag it gets a lot closer if not the same. The FW190 for example was a very streamlined plane:

Cazas de la SGM(6) Focke-Wulf Fw 190 - YouTube

Also, the chart on the previous page appeared a bit off.  The Corsair number is WAY high, and is likely an (very large motor conversion) F2G, which was made in very small numbers (many of which where used for air racing after the war BTW).  The Super Corsair was essentially an air racing re-imagining of the F2G.

U.S. Navy Aircraft History: Goodyear F2G Corsair: Kamikaze ...

The real king of propeller driven planes in WWII I believe is the Donier 335 at around 470:

World War II in Pictures: Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow) - Fast German Fighter

 

 

Gary
Gary UberDork
3/27/22 3:56 p.m.

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
3/27/22 4:02 p.m.
aircooled said:

The real king of propeller driven planes in WWII I believe is the Donier 335 at around 470:

World War II in Pictures: Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow) - Fast German Fighter

Wasn't that also the first plane to get an ejection seat so that the pilot could clear the rear prop?

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/27/22 5:01 p.m.
aircooled said:
11GTCS said:

In reply to Duke :

There were a few but yeah, a lot more surplus P51’s to work with and the liquid cooled engine is indeed more streamlined. 

The better way to state that is:  Liquid cooled engines "appear" to be be more streamlined.  Once you add in the radiator drag it gets a lot closer if not the same. The FW190 for example was a very streamlined plane:

Cazas de la SGM(6) Focke-Wulf Fw 190 - YouTube

Also, the chart on the previous page appeared a bit off.  The Corsair number is WAY high, and is likely an (very large motor conversion) F2G, which was made in very small numbers (many of which where used for air racing after the war BTW).  The Super Corsair was essentially an air racing re-imagining of the F2G.

U.S. Navy Aircraft History: Goodyear F2G Corsair: Kamikaze ...

The real king of propeller driven planes in WWII I believe is the Donier 335 at around 470:

World War II in Pictures: Dornier Do 335 Pfeil (Arrow) - Fast German Fighter

 

 

You want the XP-47J. 505 in level flight.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy MegaDork
3/27/22 8:17 p.m.

Nashville felt....pre covid normal this weekend.

 

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