skierd
SuperDork
7/14/15 12:35 a.m.
A few weeks ago my wife dragged home a boat. The info plate says it's a sand piper 8.
$50 and we're pretty sure it floats so no complaints. It needs work though. Closest thing still being sold to it I can find is a Walker Bay 8 I think? Any help in finding parts and pieces would be great. It needs a new transom, oar locks possibly, and a mast plate if I can't find or make a sail kit for it.
I'd also like to get an outboard for it. Suggestions?
Lol, rubberqueen. .
Looks like $50 worth of fun
Never seen a white one that big...
For the money to find and buy all the bits to make it sail you could buy an up and running sailboat.
For power I would lean toward an electric trolling motor. It would provide plenty of power for a few hours at a time without the weight of a 4 stroke.
Here's some inspiration for you.
T.J.
UltimaDork
7/14/15 6:50 a.m.
In reply to petegossett:
LOL, I hadn't heard that before. I imagine it was a bit risque for the times.
In reply to skierd:
Looks like a fun project. That is is you find fiberglass, epoxy and sanding fun. I have been on the lookout for a little sailing dinghy myself, but I am looking for 14'-16'.
3 persons ~ 360 lbs? All under 12 years old?
I've been learning to sail on a Vagabond 14 (same as a Hobie 1-14) dinghy since last year. I bought it with a trailer and usable sails for $600. Might have $1500 in it now and that includes a brand new trolling motor, Optima marine battery, and a complete re-rig. As long as you don't have to buy sails these little boats aren't expensive to own and operate.
So - parts? Go to www.duckworksbbs.com They sort of focus on wooden boats but they have everything you'll need for hardware and fiberglass at the best prices anywhere. Trust me, I've looked. A lot. Also, they're a small businees and are great to deal with, and are very active in supporting the small boat community.
The only thing I would suggest looking elsewhere for might be lines. I bought all my running rigging from www.riggingandhardware.com Good prices with a wider selection on rope than Duckworks can stock. Also family owned and very helpful.
So....did it come with sails and a the daggerboard?
My Vagabond, Firefly, the day after I bought it:
RossD
PowerDork
7/14/15 7:18 a.m.
Grtechguy wrote:
3 persons ~ 360 lbs? All under 12 years old?
Think less 'kids' and more 'bikini clad'.
Just re read your post. No sails - Check out Polysail.com - best way to DIY sails for cheap. You might also be able to scare up a set of used Walker bay sails for cheap if you keep your eyes open.
Propulsion is a problem - motors are heavy (especially gas outboards) and expensive (especially gas outboards) but oars are hard to store in a boat that small when you're not using them. If it were me....I'd grab a $100 Minn Kota 30 (which is what I have) and a really small battery. My Optima is way overkill and weights 45 lbs. Or whatever tiny trolling motor you can find on CL for cheap.
As for the mast plate ---- that may be more of a challenge....
If you are closer to NJ.. I am more than willing to take a day or two to give you a hand with the epoxy. I have gotten -very- good with it.
I could even build you a daggerboard if you can find the specs on it. I also find that Sailright has what you need for making your own sails
I taught sailing at a summer camp in boats like that. We called them sunfish. Never had a need for oars or a motor.
God I miss sailing.
T.J. wrote:
In reply to petegossett:
LOL, I hadn't heard that before. I imagine it was a bit risque for the times.
In reply to skierd:
Looks like a fun project. That is is you find fiberglass, epoxy and sanding fun. I have been on the lookout for a little sailing dinghy myself, but I am looking for 14'-16'.
It's "Stag Party" music, so yeah definitely risqué for the time. I have her greatest hits on CD, it's awesome.
Dusterbd13 wrote:
I taught sailing at a summer camp in boats like that. We called them sunfish. Never had a need for oars or a motor.
God I miss sailing.
A Sunfish is a particular boat, actually. Unless it's become a generic term since I worked at a summer camp. We mostly had Lasers.
Dusterbd13 wrote:
I taught sailing at a summer camp in boats like that. We called them sunfish
I used to work at a summer camp as well; Sunfish sailboats were the same general size, but they were quite a bit different than this boat.
edit: our camp had one Laser boat as well, until some kid turtled the thing in the middle of the lake and the mast went to the bottom.
I learned to sail in a little dinghy and it was really fun. Spent a day cruising the harbor in St. Somewhere in the Caribbean. Haven't sailed since, but I hope to try it again some day.
Find a 3 or 5 horse gamefisher on CL, should be able to find running examples for under 300$. Air cooled, self contained, no transmission, reverse is achieved by spinning it 180* backwards. Light, easy to store, just make sure you run it dry on fuel before you put it up for any period of time.
Local examples:
1.75
3 horse
The boats we sailed and called sunfish were much more similar to the op's boat. So maybe it's just what we generically called them.
I want one to teach my daughter to sail in. But I need to finish her go kart first.
Keep in mind most air cooled outboards will still have wet exhaust and a water pump for that. Only a handful (dry exhaust) will let you run them with the prop barely in the water.
RossD wrote:
Grtechguy wrote:
3 persons ~ 360 lbs? All under 12 years old?
Think less 'kids' and more 'bikini clad'.
Old sailor’s adage…girls only lay down in boats they can stand up in.
yes, the sunfish is -the- most popular boat ever built. There are literally over 300,000 of them built since 1952.
and I am serious Skierd.. if you can fins the specs on the daggerboard.. I can build you a one
I'd bet it's close enough to the Walker bay that you could make that dagger work. Hell, mine's just a board with the front and rear edges rounded out, basically. Kind of a NACA cross section...sort of. It's even cheap pine. Works great so far.
Grtechguy wrote:
3 persons ~ 360 lbs? All under 12 years old?
Remember, 40 years ago the average adult male weighed 155-160.....
40 years ago I weighed even less than that!
Our Thistle one-design sailboat is designed for an optimal race crew of three, totaling 450 lbs. My wife and I together total not a whole lot less than that. :-/
It was designed in '45 though, for sure they had smaller people back then.