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chknhwk
chknhwk Dork
11/5/19 3:07 p.m.

So I just found this at Target and I don't really know where to check but answer me this: which version is this? Diehard Star Wars fans will know what I mean...

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/5/19 3:12 p.m.

Sadly, Han does not shoot first in that version. The theatrical cuts are not available on any digital media right now, as far as I know. They did come out on DVD at one point, a friend of mine has them. But anything new is going to be Lucasized.

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
11/5/19 3:14 p.m.

Don't take this as gospel, but I believe it is the most bastardized and edited version that good old Chinless Lucas cooked up before selling to the mouse.

Last I read, the only way to get a non-messed-with version was on VHS, and they command a pretty penny on eBay.

*edit. Buy it, If it turns out to be an older edit that Disney has released on DVD I'll buy a few copies.

slefain
slefain PowerDork
11/5/19 3:20 p.m.

Pssst, if you look around online you can find a video file of a fan remastered scan of the actual 1977 theater release film. And damn right Han shoots first in that one.

jharry3
jharry3 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/19 3:28 p.m.

Han shot first in 1977.    He had to. Guido was going to kill him.  Guido got the drop on Han, had the gun pointed at him, but had to go and run his mouth while Han was quietly undoing the safety on his gun and he shot Guido through the table top.     

  If Guido had shot first Han would be dead because no bounty hunter would miss from 3 feet away.    

No  bs "code of the west" from the cowboy "B" movies. 

chknhwk
chknhwk Dork
11/5/19 3:35 p.m.

In reply to Tom_Spangler :

I actually purchased a set of that edition on eBay and they were advertised as the first theatrical Edition release but sadly I never checked them and they were not. That was a very expensive mistake...

chknhwk
chknhwk Dork
11/5/19 3:36 p.m.

Thanks for the info, everybody!

I had a set on VHS but sadly lost them. 

Robbie
Robbie MegaDork
11/5/19 3:39 p.m.

If you were han, would you wait to be shot at?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
11/5/19 3:40 p.m.

I like the Andywan version.  Han shoots first and the light saber colors are correct.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
11/5/19 3:49 p.m.

Interesting... I need to check my VHS copies... if only I had a VHS player. blush

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
11/5/19 4:04 p.m.
barefootskater said:

Don't take this as gospel, but I believe it is the most bastardized and edited version that good old Chinless Lucas cooked up before selling to the mouse.

Last I read, the only way to get a non-messed-with version was on VHS, and they command a pretty penny on eBay.

*edit. Buy it, If it turns out to be an older edit that Disney has released on DVD I'll buy a few copies.

Laserdisc did it too. I had a set. 

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/19 5:19 p.m.

There is indeed exactly ONE non-special edition DVD release of A New Hope where Han shoots first. It was a box set of all three original trilogy, gold leaf looking.

I should know, I own one! 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/5/19 5:26 p.m.

Just so you know, if you didn't see it in the first few weeks in  77,  you haven't see "the original." Lucas went back and remastered Williams soundtrack. 

So...apparently,  he's been doing that since the beginning.

 

I just want my nub-nub back, dammit. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
11/5/19 5:29 p.m.
slefain said:

Pssst, if you look around online you can find a video file of a fan remastered scan of the actual 1977 theater release film. And damn right Han shoots first in that one.

Yup.  You can download a remastered 1080p version of the original cuts.  Do it.

chknhwk
chknhwk Dork
11/5/19 6:37 p.m.
Javelin said:

There is indeed exactly ONE non-special edition DVD release of A New Hope where Han shoots first. It was a box set of all three original trilogy, gold leaf looking.

I should know, I own one! 

I THOUGHT I did! Honestly I think the guy repackaged the wrong discs in the set because they're all from the run that you're referring to. 

chknhwk
chknhwk Dork
11/5/19 6:40 p.m.
slefain said:

Pssst, if you look around online you can find a video file of a fan remastered scan of the actual 1977 theater release film. And damn right Han shoots first in that one.

I'm looking now...

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/19 6:46 p.m.
Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera HalfDork
11/5/19 7:35 p.m.

If you want the absolute best version of the OT, seek and download Harmy's De-specialized editions.  They're free and free of Lucas' tinkerings.  The story of how these versions came to be is interesting as well.

 

Here's a compressed version of Star Wars:

https://archive.org/details/starwarsivdespecialized

 

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/5/19 8:36 p.m.
jharry3 said:

Han shot first in 1977.    He had to. Guido was going to kill him.  Guido got the drop on Han, had the gun pointed at him, but had to go and run his mouth while Han was quietly undoing the safety on his gun and he shot Guido through the table top.     

  If Guido had shot first Han would be dead because no bounty hunter would miss from 3 feet away.    

No  bs "code of the west" from the cowboy "B" movies. 

* Greedo.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/8/19 9:32 a.m.

You know, I might have Star Wars on VHS, too, come to think of it. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/8/19 9:32 a.m.

Also, if Greedo had shot Han, it would have been a shorter story. 

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
11/8/19 9:58 a.m.

So speaking of bounty hunters, anyone going to get Disney Streaming just for The Mandolorian? 

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
11/8/19 10:10 a.m.

In reply to pheller :

Considering I am not good about using the streaming services I am currently paying for (mainly Netflix), no. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
11/8/19 10:13 a.m.

I split with my ex for Disney (effectively we got an account for our son).  3 years pre-purchased with a discount and it came out to <$2 a month for me.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
11/8/19 1:24 p.m.

In reply to Tom_Spangler :

I think it's funnier to imagine the other bounty hunters name as Guido. 

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