Travis_K
Travis_K UltraDork
6/30/13 4:20 a.m.

I want something different than another iPhone, and I am thinking about buying one. I know there aren't as many apps available, but as long as I would be able to send, receive and reply to email from a gmail account I cant really think of anything I would want it to do that it can't.

slopecarver
slopecarver Reader
6/30/13 5:31 a.m.

I love my google nexus 4 $299 no contract.

szeis4cookie
szeis4cookie Reader
6/30/13 5:39 a.m.

I have the 822, which I understand to differ in screen quality and case - internals are supposed to be identical. There aren't as many apps on Windows phone, but most of the majors are there. The major apps like Facebook and Twitter conform to the overall design of the operating system which is nice. The live tiles are cool - if you set the calendar to the largest tile size it'll tell you what, when and where you're supposed to be next. The people hub is pretty neat as well, it aggregates all your social networks into one place, although I wish it would let you post out of the people hub instead of having to switch to the me hub.

Overall I love it so far - in some ways it's way better than android and iPhone.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
6/30/13 6:49 a.m.

I have no personal experience with the 920 or Windows Phones in general but here is a link to some pretty balanced consumer reviews:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/user_reviews.php?phone=3906
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11504

Sultan
Sultan HalfDork
6/30/13 9:15 a.m.

I have a 900. I really like the Windows platform but my next phone will be a Samsung. I had one before the 900 but 3 seconds in the toilet did it in.

As for apps I use very few. Even when I had my iPhone I found that after loading a bunch I never used most of them.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
6/30/13 9:21 a.m.
slopecarver wrote: I love my google nexus 4 $299 no contract.

+1. probably the best phone i've ever had. Kinda fragile though.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
6/30/13 9:24 a.m.

I have used a 920 for about 7-8 months now. Mine's a pretty early developer model but from what I can tell the hardware is the production hardware, it's just missing a bunch of accessories. Nokia threw everything and the kitchen sink at this phone (like wireless charging) so it is a little bulky and heavy, but no worse than other smart phones of this size.

Battery life is pretty decent for a smart phone, at least with my usage - I don't make many calls, it's mostly email and using it as a podcast playback device. I can get an easy 2 days minimum out of a charge that way.

I love the screen, but the successors - 925 and 928 - are supposed to have an even better screen.

GMail works fine with it, as far as I remember the built-in email client even has the GMail settings preset in it. The email client itself is a little on the barebones side compared to, say, K9 Mail on Android or ibisMail on iOS but it compares OK with the "stock" clients. Oh, and it integrates really well with a corporate Exchange server if you're so afflicted.

I use the phone on T-Mobile, it happily does HDSPA+ on their network, browsing speed is fast and voice quality is better than what I'm used to from my Android phone on Verizon.

Camera is pretty impressive for a cell camera. It's got decent but noisy low-light capabilities and is great overall as a snapshot camera when I don't have the digital SLR on me (ie, most of the time).

App availability is not as good as iOS or Android by a long shot, but so far I managed to find everything I needed, which is admittedly not that much - BoA Internet banking, Gasbuddy, Skype, eBay, Amazon mobile, a weather forecast app and FaceBook are all available. As is Angry Birds .

One killer feature for me is the navigation app - it works really, really well (Nokia owns Navteq IIRC) and pretty much has replaced my Garmin standalone for most car usage. Admittedly the app can be a little fragile (I had to reinstall it recently to get it working properly again, some things don't appear to change) but it's got everything I want including speed warnings and most importantly it's an offline nav app so you're not incurring data charges to use the navigation as long as you downloaded the maps at home. Plus it's easy to read on the pretty big screen.

It also integrates reasonably well with a Mac - the MS Windows Phone app for Mac OS does allow you to sync the phone with iTunes so that's how I'm getting music and podcasts on the phone. Syncs pretty well both ways, too, only "missing" feature is that it doesn't transcode to lower bitrates on demand like iTunes can do when you sync an iPhone. As I tend to store the music in Apple Lossless format that makes for not very much music on the phone but what is on the phone sounds very good through good headphones.

Downsides - no card slot for additional memory, battery isn't user replaceable and at least with my car charger it still runs down the battery when using the navigation app. That might be more a feature of my car charger, though.

Oh, and you need a "microsoft account" to use it, aka a hotmal/outlook.com address.

We have to upgrade/side grade our main phones because we're about to move to T-Mobile and if I could get a 920/925/928 from T-Mobile I'd seriously consider that over getting another iPhone.

Travis_K
Travis_K UberDork
12/12/14 9:57 p.m.

So as an update, I ended up getting one, and it worked pretty well at first, but it is now no longer useable at all and I still have 7 months left on the contract. I'm really not impressed. I ordered an old model Lumia (520 I think) on sale for $29.99 on amazon to replace it, no idea how well it will work, but I am honestly a bit curious to see how a smartphone that cheap performs.

nepa03focus
nepa03focus HalfDork
12/12/14 10:28 p.m.

Ouch that stinks, what happened to it if you don't mndsm asking? Broken? Dropped in a toilet? ( I have done that before when it was in a hood is pocket and I was reaching to.flush after taking a leak lol)

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/13/14 5:31 a.m.

I just retired my Nokia 520 in favor of a Nexus 6. The 520 is a decent phone, with good battery life. It doesn't have gorilla glass, so get a cheap case for it. What you get with a 520 is a low end phone with software that works on the restrictions of the low end hardware. Android phones never did low end well, at least until the Moto E. The Windows Phone 8.1/Lumia Cyan update is available, but will cost some battery life and performance. Cortana is there, but the launch times do have the hardware showing its limitations. That was my main annoyance. Cortana would only listen for speech for so long after you launched, and most of that time was spent with the phone launching Cortana. There were times where the time spent listening was under a second.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
12/13/14 7:19 a.m.

Two years on my 822, and aside from a shutdown problem early on that was fixed with an update and having to replace the screen after I dropped it the phone has been great. New screen was $20 including tools, and took 15 minutes to replace. Guess maybe newer isn't better?

Travis_K
Travis_K UberDork
12/13/14 9:22 a.m.
nepa03focus wrote: Ouch that stinks, what happened to it if you don't mndsm asking? Broken? Dropped in a toilet? ( I have done that before when it was in a hood is pocket and I was reaching to.flush after taking a leak lol)

I don't really think it has been abused excessively actually, the problem is that I updated it to 8.1 and for a month or so it was fine, but now the lock/power button almost never works. You can still turn the screen on by plugging it in so I set the screen to never turn off, but now it freezes and the screen won't respond at all for a while too. I am pretty sure its a software problem rather than it being broken, but who knows. The battery life also decreased a lot only a few months after I got it, and after about a year the GPS navigation started to slow down enough it isn't always useable anymore because it can't update fast enough to give the right directions when it should.

Its a great phone if it works, but I don't think id get another one unless I planned on replacing it after a year, for a phone that has to last 2 years I think id get another iPhone instead.

edwardh80
edwardh80 Reader
12/13/14 9:35 a.m.
Travis_K wrote:
nepa03focus wrote: Ouch that stinks, what happened to it if you don't mndsm asking? Broken? Dropped in a toilet? ( I have done that before when it was in a hood is pocket and I was reaching to.flush after taking a leak lol)
I don't really think it has been abused excessively actually, the problem is that I updated it to 8.1 and for a month or so it was fine, but now the lock/power button almost never works. You can still turn the screen on by plugging it in so I set the screen to never turn off, but now it freezes and the screen won't respond at all for a while too. I am pretty sure its a software problem rather than it being broken, but who knows. The battery life also decreased a lot only a few months after I got it, and after about a year the GPS navigation started to slow down enough it isn't always useable anymore because it can't update fast enough to give the right directions when it should. Its a great phone if it works, but I don't think id get another one unless I planned on replacing it after a year, for a phone that has to last 2 years I think id get another iPhone instead.

Sounds very similar to the Nokia 1020 I had. Had it for about 7 months all up (work phone). After 5 months, it told me there was an update to 8.1 available, so I did it. After that, it had all sorts of issues, although I never made the link until now. It would randomly turn off, drop calls, screen freeze, not respond to the power button to start using it, etc. When I turned it off manually, it would just turn itself right back on. A hard reset would solve the issue for a day or two. Now I'm back to an Android and don't think I'll ever try Windows phones again.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/13/14 6:40 p.m.

Interesting. My aforementioned 920 is still working fine (kinda "despite" the 8.1 upgrade), but I don't think that it is running a carrier specific OS. Based on the experience with the 920 I got a 925 for my wife which is working fine also, but that one hasn't been updated to 8.1 yet. The 925 is also definitely running carrier specific firmware as it supports T-Mobile's calling over Wifi which my 920 doesn't.

If my experience with Android is anything to go by, a lot of the problems seem to be at least aggravated by carrier-specific in the firmware. Pity that there isn't a Windows Phone equivalent of Cyanogenmod.

Opti
Opti Reader
12/14/14 2:11 p.m.

I had a 900 then a 920 then a replacement 920. I broke the 900s screen by slamming it in a car door. It was a heavy but VERY DURABLE phone. I slammed the E36 M3 out of the truckdoor not knowing it had slid down between the door sill and actual door, and it cracked the screen but stull worked fine.

I dropped my first 920 from about 5 feet up directly on the screen, didnt crack, could still hear the phone working but no display.

I replaced my last 920 with a Galaxy S4, just for app support. A lot of apps I wanted weren't on windows this was about 6 months ago I think, but most of the big ones are there.

I dont like phone cases but broke my S4 in just a few months, it fell about a foot and a half from my bed to me wooden bed frame and broke the screen, so its replacement and S5 is always cased. FWIW I dropped all of my Lumias many many times and only had the one get damaged.

The 920 was literally the best phone Ive ever owned excluding app support. Windows Phone 8 worked great and I had much fewer problems/freezes/apps dieing than I do on my current S5, and I never worried about carrying it around naked, the S5 always has a big bulky case on it.

If Windows phone (or when) had a little better app support Id still be using a Lumia windows phone.

Travis_K
Travis_K UberDork
12/15/14 2:24 p.m.

Strangely enough, after a week of not working it now works fine again. Who knows, I'm still going to keep the $30 Lumia 520 for a backup though. Of course now my laptop won't even boot anymore after downloading the windows 8.1 update. At least the 10+ year old laptop my sister was going to toss that I installed Linux mint on still works perfectly.

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