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Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
5/12/10 6:49 a.m.

.22 will solve all your coyote issues

Karl La Follette
Karl La Follette HalfDork
5/12/10 8:41 a.m.

Wildlife officer killed by dumbass coyote hunters link http://www.woodsnwater.net/articles/breaking-news/april-2010/officer-shot

Jake
Jake HalfDork
5/12/10 9:03 a.m.
Karl La Follette wrote: Wildlife officer killed by dumbass coyote hunters link http://www.woodsnwater.net/articles/breaking-news/april-2010/officer-shot

That is sad.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 9:06 a.m.
Grtechguy wrote: Nascar Toyota Camrys will solve all your coyote issues

Radiator View Grille View

Gimp
Gimp GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/12/10 9:30 a.m.
Jake wrote:
Karl La Follette wrote: Wildlife officer killed by dumbass coyote hunters link http://www.woodsnwater.net/articles/breaking-news/april-2010/officer-shot
That is sad.

Sad story, but this, from the same site, rules...

http://www.woodsnwater.net/boggin/diva

Ojala
Ojala GRM+ Memberand New Reader
5/12/10 9:44 a.m.

Having grown up in rural Texas I am unusually familiar with coyotes. Right up until the year she died in 85 my great-grandmother Alice regularly shot coyotes on her ranch and nailed the carcases to the fence line on her ranch.

As a child I spent the summer months working on her ranch with my cousins. I got my first 22 at 8 and I was expected to kill coyotes and snakes on sight. The coyotes would kill chickens and cats, but other than that they wouldnt cause too many problems. And yes they do come out during the day, they dont have to be rabid.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 10:31 a.m.
rebelgtp wrote: You have much more to fear from a domesticated dog gone wild than you ever would from a wolf or coyote. The wolf and coyote by their very nature will try to avoid you while the domesticated dog is use to humans and will have no issue with interacting with them even violently.

Now that is quoted for truth. We had issues with wild dogs here about 15 years ago. I think one pack actually manged to make off with a small child about 20 years ago. Thankfully most of the packs have been eliminated.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
5/12/10 11:05 a.m.

In reply to John Brown:

WTF is the story behind that one?

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 11:15 a.m.

In reply to foxtrapper:

I'm in New York. All I ever knew about Coyotes was that people shot them regularly. My dog is a mere 22 lbs and runs up to everything to make friends. I imagine he'd become lunch rather easy. Thanks for the info everyone I guess I don't have too much to worry about but I won't be leaving the wonderdog out on his own.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
5/12/10 2:03 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Appleseed wrote:
pete240z wrote: I struggle with how to pronounce it. I must be an idiot. Around Chicago everyone says "Ki-Yo-Tee" or "Ki-Yo-Tee's" Around Denver all my coworkers say "Ki-Yote" or "Ki-Yotes"
Western style= Ki-yote. City boys raised on Loony Tunes = Ki-yo-tee.
What about ki-yoot? Maybe that rhymes with oot and aboot....

Only if you're My Cousin Vinny.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
5/12/10 2:19 p.m.
Wally wrote: I'm in New York.

Now that does make a difference. For your talking about the eastern coyote. That's a larger more aggressive animal than the western coyote. A 22 lb dog that wants to be friends with everyone is a meal on wheels to an eastern coyote. Take reasonable precautions, don't just toss the dog out into the back yard to do his business and go back inside. Yes, some dogs have been snatched from their leashes while held in the owners hand, but it's darn rare.

The coyotes have been around you for many years, you've simply seen your first one. Probably won't be the last one you see either. Most likely, just one of your neighbors passing through.

If you're so inclined, it's entertaining and interesting to read up on the eastern coyote. Since no one really knows what it is, and various regions are still importing western coyotes to control deer populations. The various claims are coyote, coyote & dog, coyote & wolf, wolf & dog, separate breed, multiple types, etc. I've seen unequivocal, absolute, proof positive of each.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
5/12/10 2:27 p.m.

Good Yote==Dead Yote. I've seen a couple out here, about, what? 30 miles from 4eyes, plus some good ones on the side of the interstate. I've heard some at night. My parents live in the PRC (SOCAL) and have had serious problems out there. A yote pack will have a female in heat draw in a male dog, then the rest of the pack jumps it and kills it. They have carried off small children in Pasadena, CA. My mom was walking her dog, a Chow/Akida mix of over 100 lbs. The dog wouldn't let her go on. There was a yote across the street. Mom went the other way or something and there was really a pack of them across the street trying to lure Mom's dog off.

Friend of mine in MS had a friend. He would take a 44 magnum hollow point, take a 22 short, pull the bullet, fill the shell with black powder, press it into the hollow point cavity (and he'd only do that when he was drunk), and use that for coyotes. He said it vaporized them. Don't try that.

4eyes, if you want to come hunt yotes, anytime is OK with me.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 2:28 p.m.
4eyes wrote: There is a very good reason mankind has wiped out wolves from much of the world. Man and Wolf cannot coexist. Wolves eat anything they can kill, and they can and do kill anything that walks.

Not to mention that whole huff and puff and blow your house down business.

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks Reader
5/12/10 2:32 p.m.

here in california a coyote plucked off one of our cats. week or so later one was gonna go for another cat until i chased it off. just dont leave the puppy alone, either that or buy it a white racing suit and white helmet. the sight of the stig would make any creature empty its bowels and run on sight

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 3:55 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: In reply to John Brown: WTF is the story behind that one?
Brad Coleman, a driver for Joe Gibbs racing was traveling at 190 mph when he saw a coyote a mere 100 feet away. With no possible way of slowing down to save the creature, the driver ran it over. To his suprise he couldn't figure our where it went. He describes the incident, “It just started smoking like crazy. And it smelled terrible. I didn’t see anything in the mirror, so I was like, ‘I wonder where it went?’". A representative from Joe Gibbs racing was able to confirm the incident did in fact happen but was unable to verify the pictures. Looks like this coyote bit off more then it could chew..
John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/10 3:56 p.m.
Appleseed wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Appleseed wrote:
pete240z wrote: I struggle with how to pronounce it. I must be an idiot. Around Chicago everyone says "Ki-Yo-Tee" or "Ki-Yo-Tee's" Around Denver all my coworkers say "Ki-Yote" or "Ki-Yotes"
Western style= Ki-yote. City boys raised on Loony Tunes = Ki-yo-tee.
What about ki-yoot? Maybe that rhymes with oot and aboot....
Only if you're My Cousin Vinny.

COE-yote

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky Reader
5/12/10 6:12 p.m.

I stopped owning cats because of coyotes. At about $150 a pop, that's some expensive dining for a scavenger dog. Besides the expensive adoption fees, the kids only believe they went to "a better home" after the first couple went missing.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
5/12/10 6:51 p.m.

You payed money for a cat?!?

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks Reader
5/12/10 6:56 p.m.

^hahaha! ours were all free off of craigslist or the like

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
5/12/10 7:44 p.m.

Mine were all volunteers ^^

Margie

4eyes
4eyes Reader
5/13/10 12:44 a.m.

We used to get two or three a month dumped at our house.

4eyes
4eyes Reader
5/13/10 12:52 a.m.

In reply to Dr. Hess: This will be an interesting fall I have had a pack do the "sexy female in heat" production for my bird dogs. They always seem to do that when season is closed Good thing my dogs were secure in their kennel. My 9 month old Airedale pup is from some of the best " coyote tolling dog" bloodlines in the country, I am getting serious about hunting coyotes again, we have lost to many pets to them in the past.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/13/10 1:39 a.m.

http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/coyote_attacks.html

http://www.desertusa.com/june96/coyotes_and_people.html

Sorry guys, I've got a problem with the idea that killing coyotes is a good idea. Domesticated dogs kill or injure far more people every year than them and I'm pretty sure no one is going to advocate killing all dogs on sight. Wild animals are just that, wild, and should be respected as such. For example, if you live in coyote country it probably isn't in your best interest to leave small pets out between dawn and dusk when the coyotes are most active. The only thing killing every coyote would achieve is an explosion of the small game population (rabbits, mice, etc.) which would be a big problem. You can't fight nature and win so you might as well coexist with it.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden New Reader
5/13/10 8:00 a.m.

In southern Michigan the Red Fox was a common predator until 20-30 years ago. Then coyotes began to increase and we rarely see a fox. The fox did a nice job of keeping vermin down while being a much more pleasant neighbor than a coyote.

Autolex
Autolex HalfDork
5/13/10 8:42 a.m.

I just picked up a 700 SPS Varmint in .243... if anyone has any problems with Varmint in the FL panhandle... I can resolve it

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