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captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/20/17 1:15 p.m.
sesto elemento wrote: I thought this was gonna be a flounder, I'm a little disappointed, I love a good train wreck.

Well then I have some EXCELLENT news for you.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
1/20/17 2:04 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: Are you just going back to being a troll again, Iggy, or are you really all butt-hurt that Fiat-Chrysler discontinued the 200?
Calling out bs is the exact opposite of trolling.

Quoting this so it shows up again.

This thread is low folks. We (as a forum) are better than this. You're not clever, you're not funny.

slefain
slefain PowerDork
1/20/17 3:28 p.m.
etifosi wrote: By superbly negotiating the purchase of the remaining FCA 200's left in Dealers' stock, one could begin construction of a fantastic, American-built wall that was imported from Detroit.

Oh man, the "Imported From Detroit" campaign. That one was sad.

Seriously? The 300 chassis was built from the Mercedes parts bin, and the 200 and Dart were Fiats. They would have been better off getting Insane Clown Posse to rep their Detroit roots rather than Eminem, it would have been more fitting.

I own a Plymouth, I love my Slant-6, but I weep for what Chrysler has become.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
1/20/17 3:38 p.m.

In reply to slefain:

I'd like to see a car commercial featuring the ICP. that could be very entertaining.

I don't think it would get me to buy a Chrysler 200 or that it would be aired on any programs that I'm likely to watch, but it should be done.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
1/20/17 3:42 p.m.
fasted58 wrote: Thought you were talking about something else today. Nevermind

Ain't no one going anywhere near that discussion.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
1/20/17 3:47 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: In reply to slefain: I'd like to see a car commercial featuring the ICP. that could be very entertaining. I don't think it would get me to buy a Chrysler 200 or that it would be aired on any programs that I'm likely to watch, but it should be done.

I would legitimately be interested in at least testing a car endorsed by the clowns. They thrive in being the worst band in the world. Any car maker thats ridiculous enough to entertain the idea of putting the faygo lovers in a commercial for my perusal has my attention. It's like the Homer. If anyone actually made that freaks how, i might go look.

slefain
slefain PowerDork
1/20/17 3:53 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: In reply to slefain: I'd like to see a car commercial featuring the ICP. that could be very entertaining. I don't think it would get me to buy a Chrysler 200 or that it would be aired on any programs that I'm likely to watch, but it should be done.

Now that I think about there is one car that can pretty much guarantee to be labeled with an ICP sticker:

Juggalos love the Grand Am.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
1/20/17 4:22 p.m.

In reply to slefain:

Ratty blazers, too. Occasional minivan for the mini juggalos. Overwhelmingly domestic.

johnnie
johnnie Reader
1/20/17 5:10 p.m.

I can attest to the Chrysler 200 being in fact an automobile. The wife had one as a rental car. I drove it around the block and really don't remember anything but thinking how pristinely brand new it was and thinking how optimistic for a rental car company to buy a car with such an incredibly pale tan interior.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
1/20/17 7:30 p.m.

I know of at least one confirmed chrysler 200 purchase. The guy had to have one, since he didn't have 300 money.

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition SuperDork
1/20/17 8:51 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Big problem for FCA is that their quality issues aren't limited to just the 200. Not by a long shot. http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-reports-just-called-out-chrysler-for-its-alarmingly-bad-quality-2016-2

I'm throughly pissed off at Chrysler about this. A diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee would be the perfect answer to my present automotive question, but because they are apparently as reliable as a 70's Fiat I have to keep my old (pre Fiat) diesel Ram and buy a Subaru.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/21/17 8:49 a.m.

ICP: "Berkin' automatic transmissions, how do they work?"

Cotton
Cotton UberDork
1/21/17 5:43 p.m.

I had several 200s as rentals and actually liked them for what they were. The one with the larger engine would actually squeal a little on the 1-2 shift.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UberDork
1/23/17 8:25 a.m.

My parents had a couple of different 200's as rentals in the past year that I spent some time in when their car was in the body shop. I may be in the minority here, but I thought they were decent cars. They were quiet, had comfortable seats, and lots of equipment, even in cheapo rental spec. They even looked pretty nice in base spec. Both my mom and dad said it drove fine. It was nicer than a Malibu or even a Camry, but not quite up to competing with an Accord or Mazda 6. My only gripes were the thickness of the A pillars and the weird center stack with the storage bin underneath.

I think the older ones were so bad that people stayed away from the newer ones. I've been in the older 200 and the Avenger, and those were abysmal compared to the newer 200. I'm not sure what went wrong here.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
1/23/17 8:56 a.m.

They didn't look too bad. You could get one with a 300 hp V6 and AWD. Too bad they didn't take that further and offer some sort of sport suspension and manual transmission package with it; that could have been interesting.

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
1/23/17 9:23 a.m.

To anyone calling the 200 the worst new car they'd driven: did you ever drive a Cavalier? I got stuck with one as a rental and it was brand new ~2003. I couldn't believe they still made that car. The design was 20 years old and it felt like it was 30 years old. The car had 400 miles on it but felt tired. The automatic transmission was terrible and the engine was labored and super noisy despite being slow as dog E36 M3. I bet a rental 2015 Chrysler 200 would be like a Maybach compared to that thing.

wae
wae Dork
1/23/17 9:51 a.m.

I've put a few hundred miles on both the 200 and the Dart over the last couple years and I didn't find them that objectionable. I don't think I would buy one myself, but I can see why someone might be attracted to the styling and not care about much else. They're both cars that are utterly unremarkable in every way -- nothing is particularly good and nothing is particularly bad. Granted, I don't have a lot of faith in Chrysler's long-term reliability, but that's probably more of a personal perception than anything else. When I turned it back in to Enterprise, I believe my comment about the Dart was "of all the cars I've driven, that was one of them".

fanfoy
fanfoy Dork
1/23/17 2:06 p.m.
The0retical
The0retical Dork
1/23/17 3:43 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote: In reply to slefain: I'd like to see a car commercial featuring the ICP. that could be very entertaining. I don't think it would get me to buy a Chrysler 200 or that it would be aired on any programs that I'm likely to watch, but it should be done.

Not so fun fact of the day: Juggalos have been listed as a gang by the FBI since 2011. The lawsuit brought by Psychopathic Records has been dismissed twice as "without standing" even with intervention by the ACLU.

No marketing department in the right mind these days will touch them.

/I'm not a fan however it was an interesting story to follow because the listing by the FBI has been framed as tenuous at best by everyone reporting on it.
//The 200 was a very forgettable vehicle. I vaguely remember renting one for a week for work.

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