HeaderS!?

so, just a quick rant. As a moderator on a Protege forum, I see this all the time and I just want to vent.

IT'S AN INLINE 4-BANGER! THERE'S ONLY ONE HEADER! You didn't buy headers for your little ricebox Protege, you bought A HEADER! Unless you're bolting one of those E36 M3s to the intake side, it's A HEADER!

/rant.

This is one thing I like about the Accord community I belong to. We all refer to them as a HEADER. I just wish others would follow suit.

Headers is correct for a multi-cylinder engine.

What article of clothing do you wear on the lower half of your body - a pant?

no, a pair of pants. You have 4 exhaust runners on a header. At least that's how it's always been for me lol

yes, but do you wear a "pair of shirts"? Shirts have 2 sleeves. Think about it!

MCarp22 wrote: Headers is correct for a multi-cylinder engine.

+1

That_Renault_Guy wrote: What article of clothing do you wear on the lower half of your body - a pant?

A banana hammock?

I don't care how many you have, they're still sheep.

amaff wrote: no, a pair of pants. You have 4 exhaust runners on a header. At least that's how it's always been for me lol

A "header" is an exhaust pipe that is attached directly to the head of the engine (get it) - the collector is where multiple headers come together.

99.9% of the time, the collector is permanently attached to the individual headers, making the set of headers one purchasable item.

That being said, I think either header or headers are acceptable in normal conversation.

Exhaust manifold. Problem solved.

confuZion3 wrote: Exhaust manifold. Problem solved.

Well that's a whole different can of worms...first if you get one exhaust manifold for a V8 you've only done it half way, that would definitely be "exhaust manifolds." Also the words "exhaust manifold" carry the connotation of being a crappy stock system with some sort of big sloppily designed chamber that leads to the collector.

The definition of a word is, quite literally, what people think it means.

Thus "irregardless" is considered a word, despite the fact that it is completely unnecessary and has exactly the same meaning as "regardless".

aircooled wrote: The definition of a word is, quite literally, what people think it means.

NO WAY! The meaning of a word is frozen to the point in time (*) where I learned what it was, everything before that was lingual evolution and everything after is just people who can't speak the damn language!

Headers, IIRC, is short for header pipes. I think. Either way, yeah, it's headers, or the exhaust system starts at the head flange. (Where is the collector on a one-cylinder engine?)

(*) point in time: a redundancy that annoys a lot of people, like hot water heater

Fun fact: the Aussie term for headers is extractors.

aircooled wrote: The definition of a word is, quite literally, what people think it means. Thus "irregardless" is considered a word, despite the fact that it is completely unnecessary and has exactly the same meaning as "regardless".

I love when people who aren't langauge trained try to wax philosophical about it.

Ir - is a prefix meaning "not" so irregardless would technically mean "regarded" even though people use it to mean "regardless" which is why its considered non-standard, like ain't.

"irregardless

an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from 1912, probably a blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic."

Except that languages are fluid, moving changing and evolving with time. To puff up invites others to deflate you.

Irregardless is listed in most dictionaries today as a non-standard word of identical meaning to regardless.

Ain't is a word now.

Computer has a whole different meaning today than it did to our grandparents. To them, a computer was a person.

Luke wrote: Fun fact: the Aussie term for headers is extractors.

Like calling a shock a "damper", that's actually a more accurate term.

Fair enough, you got me ;)

With this knowledge in hand, I guess I can stop pwn1ng n00bs now

foxtrapper wrote: Except that languages are fluid, moving changing and evolving with time. To puff up invites others to deflate you. Irregardless is listed in most dictionaries today as a non-standard word of identical meaning to regardless.

"What? Inflammable means the same as flammable?"

(Name the show and episode, and you get a cookie)

My greatest fear is that someday, "I could care less" will be the accepted term, and not just by morons who do not think about what they are saying (pretty much everybody, looks like)

Pants originally were two separate items of clothing. Not so sure about shirts, aside from having separate collars, requiring a tie to keep the collar in place. People still wear ties even though they're redundant, I guess we've still gotta call them "pants".

I may amuse myself now, drunk-dialling the Men's Wearhouse and asking for one pant. I tried calling Home Depot looking for a fent and the salesdroid didn't bite.

noisycricket wrote: My greatest fear is that someday, "I could care less" will be the accepted term, and not just by morons who do not think about what they are saying (pretty much everybody, looks like)

That infuriates the hell out of me. I hear it so much nowadays (even on TV), yet it makes no sense whatsoever (in the context that it's always used in.)