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skruffy
skruffy Dork
7/15/08 8:30 p.m.

I was reading this article and that question popped into my head. I can't think of a single mercury model in the past few decades that wasn't just a rebadged ford. I can't even think of the last time I saw a newer lincolon that wasn't a town car or navigator but they got a new model...

Gearhead_42
Gearhead_42 HalfDork
7/15/08 8:32 p.m.

May have shared components but the last Cougar (the V6 FWD one) had no Ford equivalent...

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/15/08 8:37 p.m.

in europe it was the ford cougar

Woodyhfd
Woodyhfd GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/15/08 8:49 p.m.

1991-1994 Capri? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Capri

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter New Reader
7/15/08 8:49 p.m.
skruffy wrote: I was reading this article and that question popped into my head. I can't think of a single mercury model in the past few decades that wasn't just a rebadged ford. I can't even think of the last time I saw a newer lincolon that wasn't a town car or navigator but they got a new model...

...which is just a rebadged Ford with a full cow interior and DOHC engine. Both of 'em.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter New Reader
7/15/08 8:50 p.m.
Woodyhfd wrote: 1991-1994 Capri? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Capri

Wasn't that just a rebadged Mazda?

Gearhead_42
Gearhead_42 HalfDork
7/15/08 8:56 p.m.
ignorant wrote: in europe it was the ford cougar

Stupid report button, sorry...

If we follow that strictly, I'd say you'd have to go all the way back to the early sixties, I would think...

Salanis
Salanis Dork
7/15/08 9:00 p.m.
Gearhead_42 wrote: May have shared components but the last Cougar (the V6 FWD one) had no Ford equivalent...

Because it was a rebadged Mitsubishi Eclipse.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/15/08 9:02 p.m.

global badge engineering is tough

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter New Reader
7/15/08 9:04 p.m.
Salanis wrote:
Gearhead_42 wrote: May have shared components but the last Cougar (the V6 FWD one) had no Ford equivalent...
Because it was a rebadged Mitsubishi Eclipse.

???

Really? I never knew Ford had any dealings with mitsubishi. I thought the only rebadged eclipses were sold as Sebrings. What's your source for that?

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/15/08 9:06 p.m.

I don't think ford ever dealt with mitsu.. Chrysler had that locked up for a while.

Sonic
Sonic New Reader
7/15/08 9:11 p.m.

yea, the Sebring/Avenger was an Eclipse relative. The Cougar had nothing to do with Mitsubishi, it had some Contour DNA in it.

mtn
mtn Dork
7/15/08 9:56 p.m.

The last Capri, the last Cougar (yuck) The Marauder.... I know its a CV, but with more go.... Was the Mercury Lynx just an escort? IDK anything about either...

Not really recent, but there was a car called the Mercury Brougham for about two years in the late 60's that I'm pretty sure was just a Mercury

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/15/08 10:27 p.m.

My parents only ever bought Mercuries.. my aunt and uncle usually bought the same model, but a ford.

Honestly, the mercuries were MUCH nicer to ride in and were better equipped with seemingly higher quality interior fit, finish, and materials.

neon4891
neon4891 HalfDork
7/15/08 10:34 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: My parents only ever bought Mercuries.. my aunt and uncle usually bought the same model, but a ford. Honestly, the mercuries were MUCH nicer to ride in and were better equipped with seemingly higher quality interior fit, finish, and materials.

IIRC, our '85 Gran Marquie was alot nicer than its replacement, an '85 LTD Country Squire. I miss that wagon, and we got rid of it a year before I got my permit

Salanis
Salanis Dork
7/15/08 11:35 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: Really? I never knew Ford had any dealings with mitsubishi. I thought the only rebadged eclipses were sold as Sebrings. What's your source for that?

I could be totally wrong but...

Eclipse:

Cougar:

Every time I see one, I swear it looks just like an Eclipse.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
7/15/08 11:52 p.m.

yeah, you would be wrong

they are not the same car at all...seriously, drive them.

MitchellC
MitchellC New Reader
7/16/08 12:29 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: My parents only ever bought Mercuries.. my aunt and uncle usually bought the same model, but a ford. Honestly, the mercuries were MUCH nicer to ride in and were better equipped with seemingly higher quality interior fit, finish, and materials.

Solution? Take the Gran Marquis, and put the Ford badge back on. Wah-la! It's too bad Ford didn't market the brand differently; the name "Mercury" simply sounds cool in my opinion.

The Crown Vic was only stunted to make the Marquis look better.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/16/08 6:44 a.m.
ReverendDexter wrote:
Woodyhfd wrote: 1991-1994 Capri? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Capri
Wasn't that just a rebadged Mazda?

Kinda O/T, but is the Turbo Capri exhaust manifold of any use to 1.6L Miata folk? A friend grabbed the whole turbo system off one that was being scrapped. The turbo is trashed(the compressor & impellers were melted!), but the manifold is good.

integraguy
integraguy New Reader
7/16/08 6:54 a.m.

Calling the Capri a "re-badged" Mazda is about as accurate as calling the FWD Cougar a re-badged Contour/Mystique.

Mercury has had different trim levels and sometimes different engines from what were available in the "equivalent" Fords....but rarely a different/exclusive car. When Mercury was introduced in 1939, it had a 4 door convertible that I don't believe Ford offered. In the '50/early '60s, Mercury offered both 2 and 4 door HARDTOP station wagons, body styles never offered by Ford. But then again, Mercury never offered a sedan delivery body style or a Ranchero equivalent.

Greg Voth
Greg Voth Associate Publisher
7/16/08 7:59 a.m.

If I remember correctly the cougar was an updated model of the Probe with the 2.5 V6. I could be wrong however.

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
7/16/08 8:19 a.m.

According to our new car review back when the Cougar was new, it was mostly a coupified Contour. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new-cars/1999-mercury-cougar/

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
7/16/08 8:32 a.m.

Mercury did have a pickup, and I believe that the Marauder in the 60's was it's own model.

Mercury also did a joint rebadging with Nissan (Villager/Quest).

Wowak
Wowak Dork
7/16/08 8:37 a.m.
Salanis wrote: I could be totally wrong but...

You are. The Cougar is a 2-door Mondeo.

Wowak
Wowak Dork
7/16/08 8:38 a.m.
Greg Voth wrote: If I remember correctly the cougar was an updated model of the Probe with the 2.5 V6. I could be wrong however.

It was intended to REPLACE the Probe, but the decision was made late in development to call it a Mercury. It shares no DNA with the Mazda-built Probe.

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