tuna55
MegaDork
8/25/17 6:40 a.m.
Done.
Ignition switch, jumpered neutral safety switch, three freeze plugs, water pump, water pump inlet tube, and now thermostat.
It may need a battery, not sure, but I will have to charge it somehow regardless.
But the temperature is rock solid now at around 190. I drilled a small hole in the thermostat to make sure I was getting enough flow, and it is a 180 degree thermostat.
perfect.
I personally own:
3 trickle chargers
1 6/2 A manual battery charger
1 12/2 A automatic charger
1 75/12/2 A Automatic charger
1 200A Schumaker rolly charger
I have charger privilege.
Awesome update! So glad to see you move this to the "done" pile! Thanks for all your hard work, dedication, and perseverance in helping your friend - the world needs more people like you!!!
tuna55
MegaDork
8/25/17 8:34 a.m.
dj06482 wrote:
Awesome update! So glad to see you move this to the "done" pile! Thanks for all your hard work, dedication, and perseverance in helping your friend - the world needs more people like you!!!
And you!
You spent like $200, and VCH bought her a thermostat. Without you guys, we'd be waiting for two months before her budget allowed this!
bluej
UltraDork
8/25/17 8:48 a.m.
Hey Tuna, I've improvised a trickle charger from an old AC to DC converter. I think it used to be for a 12v cordless drill that moved on to the toolbox in the sky. Just a thought if you're looking to do something on the super cheap. Basically, anything that puts out a 12-14v DC current could work.
You, T55 to the head of the line .....St. Peter would like to have a word with you.... execellent all of y'all !!!
Way to go Tuna and crew! idk about your state, but CA requires all auto shops including walmart or sears types with auto stores to test and charge batteries free of charge.
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 7:45 a.m.
Sad update here, she lived with a few roommates for the years between when I last updated this and now. She has been getting more and more paranoid and irrational about everyone. Everyone's always out to get her. She stopped contacting me, but still chats with my wife every so often. When we last chatted, she was trying to invent ways to make her Jeep produce enough electricity to run several outlets so she could live in it. I believe that she left her climate controlled affordable living place for the second time, and this time she's back living in the Jeep.
pheller
UltimaDork
12/2/20 10:33 a.m.
Sorry to hear that. I noticed this thread, and that last reply of yours Tuna came at a interesting time. I've got a friend-of-a-friend whom I follow on Instagram who has been exhibiting some signs of paranoid delusions. Every day its multiple posts challenging the reader to "investigate" her claims of multiple abuses by multiple people, some have one name and sometimes have another. It just bares all the signs of someone falling after, or into, a mental breakdown.
What's wild is that she's a PHD level college instructor. She recently lost her job. Normally she is smart and well spoken and well worded and coherent. Now she's....not.
How do you get through to someone like that? Someone who has seen Doctors, Therapists, taken meds, and because of those things got their life on track, but then had some trauma, stopped with the meds, and now thinks all of the people in her previous "good" life were evil actors out to manipulate her?
I mean, she was dating a guy for years and they seemed happy together and now she claims because he was friendly with her parents that he was sent to control to her, rape her, belittle her, and conspire with her employer to terminate her.
In reply to tuna55 :
Thanks for the update.
I'm sad to hear things have digressed. Mental health problems are really hard to deal with for the people around.
She's fortunate to have a friend like you, even if she doesn't know it. Don't measure your success by her accomplishments or lack thereof. You have shown her great honor and dignity, though she may be unable to receive it.
Job well done my friend.
Another example at how horrendous our mental healthcare is in the US.
Sorry to hear this update Tuna. Hopefully things improve sometime soon.
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 12:08 p.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:
In reply to tuna55 :
Thanks for the update.
I'm sad to hear things have digressed. Mental health problems are really hard to deal with for the people around.
She's fortunate to have a friend like you, even if she doesn't know it. Don't measure your success by her accomplishments or lack thereof. You have shown her great honor and dignity, though she may be unable to receive it.
Job well done my friend.
Thanks for this. I try always to live out the words from Matthew "And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'", but it's really hard to watch none of it working. Pray for her. She's really a wonderful person who is simply falling apart.
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 12:09 p.m.
mtn (Forum Supporter) said:
Another example at how horrendous our mental healthcare is in the US.
Sorry to hear this update Tuna. Hopefully things improve sometime soon.
I'm not sure there exists, on paper or physically in the world, a way to handle mental health crises.
Duke
MegaDork
12/2/20 12:30 p.m.
In reply to tuna55 :
This is very very true. Sometimes the center just doesn't hold.
My condolences to you, and my congratulations for having done more than what most people would.
tuna55 said:
mtn (Forum Supporter) said:
Another example at how horrendous our mental healthcare is in the US.
Sorry to hear this update Tuna. Hopefully things improve sometime soon.
I'm not sure there exists, on paper or physically in the world, a way to handle mental health crises.
I actually had started typing and ended up deleting that "There is no perfect example or blueprint anywhere in the world, but we need to do so much better than we are" on that post. I deleted it because it gets too close to a flounder. But what the hell.
You're never going to solve it. It does need to be improved. You can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink. But right now, in this country, due to health insurance pre-approvals or lack of coverage or outright cost, you might find that the water has a fence around it and the gate takes months of red tape to open, or what is often an impossible amount of money to open, or something else. A horse may or may not drink water if you bring it to the water, but if the water isn't there or is impossible to get to, it will not drink water.
And while this is anecdotal, I say this as someone who has "good" health insurance who had to find a partial hospitalization program for my wife, figure out what we could afford AFTER hitting our deductible, having to change therapists 3 times because the only ones in network were all overbooked... Suffice to say, when it came time for my brother to go into a rehab facility for his alcoholism, my wife and I sat down with my mom and dad to look at his insurance (brothers fiance was staying with my brother), consulted with his doctor and their billing staff, and we figured out that the quickest, most affordable way to get it completed was to take him to the emergency room to then get admitted as a psychiatric risk to then get transferred to the rehab facility.
That should not ever be a thing. It should not take 4 people with 6 college degrees between them - 3 of them medical degrees and 2 of the people still working at a berkeleying hospital - 4 hours and consultation with numerous professionals to figure out how the hell to get treatment, to find out that instead of going to the source of the treatment, you have to go through 2 pointless steps to get there first. That is just asinine. Oh, and if my parents hadn't been handling the finances, my brother would have had to declare bankruptcy.
That needs to be fixed. It needs to be so much easier and more affordable to access.
I would get her info and go down to the local police and explain her problems .
You do not want the cops pulling her over and not knowing her problems , thats how people get shot ,
The police might be able to point you to other places that can help.... that are trained to be able to talk to people like this ,
Also see the reality of today , if she is living in her Jeep make sure she has warm blankets etc , and maybe buy a solar battery charger that so she can keep the battery up ,
Is she getting food stamps or Social Security ?
Good Luck , there are people out there that can help her
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 1:05 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:
I would get her info and go down to the local police and explain her problems .
You do not want the cops pulling her over and not knowing her problems , thats how people get shot ,
The police might be able to point you to other places that can help.... that are trained to be able to talk to people like this ,
Also see the reality of today , if she is living in her Jeep make sure she has warm blankets etc , and maybe buy a solar battery charger that so she can keep the battery up ,
Is she getting food stamps or Social Security ?
Good Luck , there are people out there that can help her
She won't accept help from anyone, that's what I am seeing. Everyone is out to get her, so no matter what, it's never right. Even from me at this point.
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 1:06 p.m.
In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
Total flounder. I'll die on the hill of US healthcare because my wife would have likely died without it. Now let's leave this out of the thread from now on.
tuna55 said:
She won't accept help from anyone, that's what I am seeing. Everyone is out to get her, so no matter what, it's never right. Even from me at this point.
Exactly the crux of the problem right here. How do you help people who don't want help? Obviously this situation can be multiplied by the millions (be it mental, drugs, or a combination). A large percentage are on the streets. As far as I know, it is entirely illegal to compel anyone into treatment. That really needs to change. Carefully obviously.
I understand the motivation behind the change were the rather horrible institutions that used to exist (see One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest), but simply eliminating a bad solution does not mean the problem does not still exist.
Sadly I see this "solution" to problems being used in other situations.
If you are looking for a word for the crux, here it is: Anosognosia
Anosognosia, also called "lack of insight," is a symptom of severe mental illness experienced by some that impairs a person’s ability to understand and perceive his or her illness. It is the single largest reason why people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder refuse medications or do not seek treatment. Without awareness of the illness, refusing treatment appears rational, no matter how clear the need for treatment might be to others.
Approximately 50% of individuals with schizophrenia and 40% with bipolar disorder have symptoms of anosognosia. Long recognized in stroke, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological conditions, studies of anosognosia in psychiatric disorders is producing a growing body of evidence of anatomical damage in the part of the brain involved with self-reflection. When taking medications, insight improves in some patients.
Improving access to treatment for people too ill to seek help, including involuntary treatment when legal criteria are met, is one of the ways the Treatment Advocacy Center is working to fix the mental health system.
tuna55
MegaDork
12/2/20 2:18 p.m.
aircooled said:
tuna55 said:
She won't accept help from anyone, that's what I am seeing. Everyone is out to get her, so no matter what, it's never right. Even from me at this point.
Exactly the crux of the problem right here. How do you help people who don't want help? Obviously this situation can be multiplied by the millions (be it mental, drugs, or a combination). A large percentage are on the streets. As far as I know, it is entirely illegal to compel anyone into treatment. That really needs to change. Carefully obviously.
I understand the motivation behind the change were the rather horrible institutions that used to exist (see One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest), but simply eliminating a bad solution does not mean the problem does not still exist.
Sadly I see this "solution" to problems being used in other situations.
If you are looking for a word for the crux, here it is: Anosognosia
Anosognosia, also called "lack of insight," is a symptom of severe mental illness experienced by some that impairs a person’s ability to understand and perceive his or her illness. It is the single largest reason why people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder refuse medications or do not seek treatment. Without awareness of the illness, refusing treatment appears rational, no matter how clear the need for treatment might be to others.
Approximately 50% of individuals with schizophrenia and 40% with bipolar disorder have symptoms of anosognosia. Long recognized in stroke, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological conditions, studies of anosognosia in psychiatric disorders is producing a growing body of evidence of anatomical damage in the part of the brain involved with self-reflection. When taking medications, insight improves in some patients.
Improving access to treatment for people too ill to seek help, including involuntary treatment when legal criteria are met, is one of the ways the Treatment Advocacy Center is working to fix the mental health system.
That's a word for a thing I have tried to put my finger on for a long time. I'm a deacon in real life aside from my day job, and it's a deacons job to serve the mercy ministry of the church body. It's incredibly hard to serve anyone in that spectrum. I've also seen firsthand how the treatment makes the person incredibly better, but that anosognia isn't improved, and so they stop taking their medicine and are back to sitting on the couch for 23.75 hours per day (the rest to pee).
I want to talk to a psychiatrist about this and learn a lot more. The human brain is amazing.
We have a family member who has caused us all tremendous grief and damage. I couldn’t figure out why she Does the things she does. It doesn’t make sense. She will never get anything out of it except causing harm.
One of the wisest thing I ever heard was said to me by a forum member here. He said, "You are trying to find logical answers to explain why a psychotic is doing things. There is no logic. She's psychotic."
It sounds silly, but I had never considered it. He was right.
That thought had helped me many times, and also with my parents with dementia.
There is simply some stuff I won't understand. Some stuff has no logic.
You have to wait for the person to want help, then ask for it. Otherwise you're not doing anything to help them.
In reply to tuna55 :
Community Colleges offer psych classes. Maybe take a couple online? The stuff you learn about us is absolutely fascinating.
Has she had less socialization as a result of COVID? I consider myself a reasonably well-adjusted person, have been able to maintain my job/income, there are five other people living at home, and yet I still find myself struggling at times. I can only imagine what it's been like for people who started at the margins of society.
In reply to tuna55 :
You are a great person for even attempting to help this lost soul.
She has refused every normal path that would lead to a stable life. If you find a place for her to rent, a few months from now it will simply be another option that she will not consider again due to her perception of reality. Be prepared to see your efforts go to waste.