How would GRM deal with this miserable neighbor?

Long story short, family dog WALKS in the neighbor across the "road"'s yard, which is rented out currently and owner lives in the house directly behind or next to the rented property, doesn't pee, doesn't E36 M3 in it. Two days ago, dog knocks down one of the RENTER'S kids. Renter doesn't really "care", as she knows the dog is just trying to play, since he is an 85#, 10 month old puppy, and her child was just knocked down without warning for the ball in her hands and somewhat "taunted" him with it, but always wants to know where he is before and after this incident.

So fast forward to today, I was out with the dog to pee and poop and he runs across to see the neighbors, the one owner and the renter. Promptly got an earful from the owner after even trying to to subvert the whole thing before it even happened. Basically amounted to shouldn't you chain up your damn dog on a chain, he knocked down "a child for heaven's sake. Wasn't that enough of a warning that you should do it." Nevermind, it wasn't her kid either. I just clammed up as the neighbor signaled to keep quiet.

So what would GRM do?

Are you sure the renter didn't complain to the landlord?

this is just tounge in cheek quips

buring cross in the front yard? do donuats in the front yard with your car? leave a bunch of beer cars in thier front yard one night? TP thier house?keep sending the relgion persons of your choice to them at odd hours? play really loud and very bad music at werid hours?

sorry, just trying to sounds funny and failing after rereading what i wrote...sigh.......

on a different note.... offer a beer or something to drink and talk to them. smile and say god bless them everytim time you see them just nod and wave to them whenever you seem them.

Only person it could have been was the twin's daddy, who isn't the other two kids daddy. Yeah, she picked some winners. Like I said, she doesn't "care" because they have a dog at the other daddy's home that does the same thing except it's an ACD.

EDIT- I got informed the owner's parents who live on the corner may be the snitches.

Oh and getting this puppy at 5 MONTHS old, is a daily struggle to keep under control, 5 months later.

You should have turned to the dog and said “look out or they’ll put you back in CHAINNNS”.

With all due respect is the dog on a leash when you walk it? There should be no reason its able to run over to the neighbors yard if you are controlling it.

Someone is overreacting, I agree, but for your pup's own safety you need to have it leashed.

ckosacranoid wrote: on a different note.... offer a beer or something to drink and talk to them. smile and say god bless them everytim time you see them just nod and wave to them whenever you seem them.

They don't care. They will spread their misery around to everyone else. They don't want any pets around.

Make sure your dog isn't able to leave your property without being on a leash. Then anytime they try to say anything, they have no leg to stand on. Don't go out of you way to talk to them and hopefully they get the picture.

We have super chest harnesses for our dogs , and they still are a handfull . Guess what you have to walk your dogs on a leash now .

dogs on water

You realize by your description you're actually the miserable neighbor by virtue of not controlling your own dog and letting it run loose onto other peoples property.

My neighbor really opened my eyes to dog training as he has highly trained hunting dog. There is no way on gods green earth an even modestly trained dog "runs across" (the road i'll take it) to "say hello". You asked what would I do? I'd train my dog.

I have a neighbor down the street who has two of those small fluffy "yippy" dogs. I'll be chilling out on my porch and they will go running down the street, and across my yard, chasing after a squirrel or whatever on pretty much a daily basis. My much larger dog is usually on the porch unleashed, but is well behaved enough to not take off after them.

It's fine for now, but if one of them nipped or knocked over my kid it wouldn't be so cool.

So how would I handle it if I were you? I'd control my dog, either by having it on leash, or have a fenced yard. Enroll in training if you think it's trainable and can be controlled off leash. Problem solved.

Leash train your dog before letting him/her loose. In most areas you can get in trouble for not having a leashed dog. My 3 year old is trained enough to stay with me when not on a leash and the neighbors love the crime prevention.

They are going a little overboard, but you do need to keep your dog under control for the safety of them, you ($), and your dog.

Recently I went to go look at a car and the neighbor let out a huge dog. Luckily the dog stopped at the buried fence, but I was on top of my car starting to draw my gun. This is not an over reaction when you know what you're up against can be damaging and/or deadly.

foxtrapper wrote: You realize by your description you're actually the miserable neighbor by virtue of not controlling your own dog and letting it run loose onto other peoples property.

I agree.

You're the person that's not controlling his dog. It shouldn't be getting in their yard. Period.

Sounds like you need to train the dog, I don't care if the dog is a pup, 80 pounds of beast isn't a joke. I'd get it under control before something happens, if the dog acts this was now it won't get any better with age.

If I had someones dog run up and jump on me I'd smack the damn dog across the face. I don't want your animal running loose and neither should you.

I am trying to train the dog, but I am 4 months behind and having to undo 4 months of free range yard habits surrounded by 14 other dogs, IIRC.

Am I also training against Italian stubbornness. One time, we are perfectly fine, the next it is like reliving the squirrel scene in UP!.

This dog doesn't jump for no reason on people. It runs around you like you are teasing it with a ball to thrown. He may get close, but retreats faster then his approach and just runs around. The only reason he jumped was to get the ball the child had in her hands over her head. Her parents are cool with the whole situation. The people who are complaining have ZERO reason to butt in except to bitch, period.

My biggest rub in this whole thing is it isn't my dog, it's the wife's. But guess who has to do everything? Ain't marriage grand?

The fact that it's your wife's dog doesn't excuse you from the responsibility if you are the one letting it outside not on a leash. I understand that it's playing behavior, but that's because I have three good sized dogs of my own. Your neighbors (neighbor's landlords whatever) obviously don't understand).

The responsibility lies on you to train your dog or restrain it. I recommend training it. Start small, with pockets full of hot dog and cheese bits. It won't take long and your dog will love you for it.

If this thread was about your child getting knocked down by the neighbor's dog, this thread would be filled with vague suggestions to make the dog disappear.

We moved to a house with no fenced yard almost 2 years ago. I have been taking both our dogs out, on a leash, separately, on a walk down the street after work, and out a few more times throughout the evening, every day, for those 2 years. Separately because one of them is pretty large and strong (90lbs). The other one is smallish and strong.

Its a pain in the ass, but less of a pain in the ass than our dogs roaming free for a little while and potentially attacking our neighbors dogs or cats. FWIW, as if it even matters anymore, these are both my wife's dogs too. lol.

Just use your leash already.

pay for training sessions with a trainer. Our Husky was getting WAAAY outta control as a pup. 3 sessions with the trainer was all it took (it was half as much him helping us learn how to control the dog, as it was about training him to listen). Hes 1 gazillion percent better. Some dogs never really can be trained - unlike labs, shepherds, and retrievers (as well as others) who are total praisewhores who will do whatever you want them to if they think youll pat them on the head if they do it, huskies are only mildly interested in pleasing us...its very hard to make him follow a verbal command. So, hes never outside of the house without a leash and a pinch collar. Our backyard is 100% fenced. If he gets out, he WILL NOT come back at our command - he may not come back at all (theyre born to run afterall). So, we make sure we are DILIGENT in keeping him controlled on a leash.

We train ours with pinch collars. Even the 85lb 11 month old puppy doesn't pull hard.

Plain and simple, you're the master of the dog. Get control of it.

Since neither you or your wife has the time or stamina to train the dog, pass it on.

I have been taking care of my daughter's dog for 14 years now, which is exactly why I told my wife my daughter could NOT have a dog.

Thank you all for your opinions, both good and bad. I just want to summarize some other thoughts going through this thread that need to be addressed and this topic is dead.

Leash, ok. But my problem with that is the other marital half. If I am outside period, I get "dumped" on to watch the dog even though it isn't mine and don't really want it either. If I take the dog out, I am out with the dog anticipating the move he is going to make and making the needed corrections to AVOID all of this as much as I can, which includes chasing after him to get back into the yard, not just screaming for him to come back from the porch. OK? I am not just doing as my wife does and letting the dog out to do as it pleases. Nice, huh?

This thread wasn't intended to be about the dog knocking the kid down, it was about the nosey neighborS that doesn't have a thing to do with any of this and bring it up to continue to bitch because she wanted to bitch at someone else then just the renter she was bitching about and to at the time. OK? If I wanted to be the miserable neighbor, I'd let the dog pee and poop in their yard and not clean it up, just like everyone else does around here in my yard. Or the free roaming cats. Yet I can't say E36 M3 about it to "keep the peace".

As if it was my kid, I would have to know or see the circumstances before passing judgement. I don't fly off the handle to scream and yell for something that doesn't even concern me.

Ok. I'm done. Round of free Internet beers is on me.

In reply to Bobzilla:

Have one. Barely phases him. And yes he could figuratively pull your arm off if he wanted to.