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JamesMcD
JamesMcD Dork
11/20/14 10:07 p.m.

A guy I work with has a nephew who's uncle just shot him through the neck with a .30-30. He did not die, but is just hanging on and if he lives, he'll be without speech and paralyzed from the neck down.

Wear your orange stuff and follow the four rules.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UberDork
11/21/14 12:28 a.m.

Its not just rifle hunters. My wife's boss accidentally sent a broadhead arrow through the chest of his best friend while on a deer hunt. He was not as lucky as the fellow that was shot in the neck.

I have been shot at in the woods and it is not something I would like to experience again. Even with that it bugs the hell out of me I didn't get to go hunting this year.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/21/14 4:14 a.m.

The year that I saw hunters coming out of a bar loaded and go hunting in Northern Wisconsin made me question it. When spent rounds came crashing through the woods near me made me quit going hunting up there.

bludroptop
bludroptop UltraDork
11/21/14 4:22 a.m.

Self-correcting problem.

[spent years chasing irresponsible, drunks with firearms from my (posted) property]

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/21/14 7:25 a.m.

This is just one of several reasons why I gave up hunting. A good friend of mine years ago was shot while riding his ATV through the woods running deer . Unfortunately some of my job involves walking property that is often wooded and undeveloped.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
11/21/14 7:36 a.m.

Just be careful in general when stomping around the woods right now. Not a bad time to be wearing some orange out there just as a general practice. Hunter or jogger or birdwatcher.

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
11/21/14 7:39 a.m.

I've been yelled out by bow hunters in tree stands while riding. Usually its at dusk, which is weird, because technically they should be leaving those stands by that time. I had one guy say to me "I'm trying to hunt?" I said "Hunt what? Darkness?", he replied back "You guys better be careful or you'll get an arrow through your leg."

And people wonder why I don't support lifting the Sunday hunting ban.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
11/21/14 7:44 a.m.

The_Jed
The_Jed UltraDork
11/21/14 7:57 a.m.

^ Well at least he can leave the bipod at home now.

rotard
rotard Dork
11/21/14 8:44 a.m.

I tend to avoid the woods during hunting season. There are plenty of forests around here where it isn't allowed, so I can go mountain biking and stuff just fine.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/21/14 8:46 a.m.
PHeller wrote: I've been yelled out by bow hunters in tree stands while riding. Usually its at dusk, which is weird, because technically they should be leaving those stands by that time. I had one guy say to me "I'm trying to hunt?" I said "Hunt what? Darkness?", he replied back "You guys better be careful or you'll get an arrow through your leg." And people wonder why I don't support lifting the Sunday hunting ban.

Years ago a co-worker who did the same work I do was standing in some woods looking at his site plan trying to figure out were he was. He heard a voice from above. No, not God. It was a turkey hunter in a tree stand right over him. The co-worker said you could not see the guy.

We have orange safety vest I wear most of the time, but definitely during hunting season. Several people in the area have been shot or killed in hunting "accidents" over the years.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/21/14 8:48 a.m.
rotard wrote: There are plenty of forests around here where it isn't allowed.

There is a such thing as poachers and they have little to no scruples or morals.

We always ask property owners if people hunt on their land and most of them say they don't. Then we get out there and find tree stands all over the place.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
11/21/14 9:00 a.m.
PHeller wrote: Usually its at dusk, which is weird, because technically they should be leaving those stands by that time.

Depends on the area and the animal. Generally speaking, you can hunt deer between 1/2-1 hour before sunrise and after sunset. So dusk is completely legal, and generally prime hunting time. Coon and such are night time hunting.

Cotton
Cotton UltraDork
11/21/14 9:13 a.m.

Lots of drinking and hunting goes on around here, which is just a real real bad combo. I'm serious about people not trespassing on my property, but luckily have not had to run anyone off yet.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
11/21/14 9:56 a.m.

After getting shot at twice, I have no desire to go hunting anymore.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
11/21/14 9:56 a.m.

I have 10 acres. I don't really have a problem with hunters or poachers on my property (we don't allow hunting, so technically if anyone was trying to hunt on my property, they would be poachers) except that they dump their carcases in my creek by the road. Yesterday, there was a head and skin of a juvenile in front of my neighbor's driveway. I doubt they got 25 lbs of meat from that one. I suspect the meth lab people up the hill are doing it. Someday I'll have a cwh camera system and then just play back the vid.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
11/21/14 10:19 a.m.

My wife just told me the other day about one of her friends losing her son last week to a hunting accident.

Apparently, he had never been hunting and he asked his dad to take him for his 16th birthday. They were walking out of the woods but not walking together. His dad got to the car and was waiting when he heard a shot. He assumed it was his son shooting at something. After a while, when his son hadn't returned he walked back into the woods to find his son dead with the guy that shot him standing near shaking and in shock.

Tragic.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/21/14 10:32 a.m.

My dad was quite a drinker. It's what killed him at 46. Once the shotguns (dove hunts) were put away, the bottle of Jim Beam came out from under the seat of his car and all the men took a snort or three. Never before the hunt.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/21/14 10:34 a.m.

Around here you have to pay money and join a hunting club or hunt on state and federal land with all the idiots. I would take the hunt club because there is also some camraderie that goes with it.

jsquared
jsquared Reader
11/21/14 11:15 a.m.

Sorry to hear about the incident Alcohol and firearms are like alcohol and driving, NEVER mix the two!

And I can't emphasize enough: KNOW the four safety rules! Beat them into your head until they are reflex-automatic.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
11/21/14 12:06 p.m.

I'm very sorry for everyone who has a story in this thread. I hope you don't mind but I have a question. What happens to the person who pulled the trigger inadvertently? I assume when someone is killed it's man slaughter, but I don't know. I realize that no harm was intended, but it seems to happen a lot. Do people go to jail, or do they just have to live with their actions for the rest of their lives?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
11/21/14 12:48 p.m.

It depends, Adrian. I think it's probably up to the local prosecutor or whatever. I think that in general, they get charged with something, from manslaughter down. And also note that while there's a lot of stories in this thread, the actual incidence is very low, considering the amount of people out hunting (or even poaching.)

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/14 2:05 p.m.

Very sad thread. I think hunting accidents are one of the worst accidents to be on either end of. Mostly because of the "bonding opportunity" that is supposed to happen between father and child (or man and nature, or between hunting companions) before they become victims and because of having to live with the guilt that the shooter is going to have to cope with (this is of course assuming they'll feel the remorse I would expect to bear if I were in their shoes). I hope I'm never in the position of victim or the shooter while on a hunting trip. (Of course I try to take measures that ensure I'll be neither, but you never know.)

In Hungary the incidences for hunting accidents per hunter were much, much, higher. With very tight gun laws, and a very alcohol tolerant culture (bars are open and occupied at 7am), it was not at all uncommon for someone unfamiliar with firearms to shoot a hunting companion while inebriated. Add in the fact that people went hunting in large groups on relatively small, private, farms and hunters became the proverbial "fish in a barrel".

Be safe.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/21/14 3:16 p.m.

I should have added I still hunt just not in Wisconsin. Montana FTW!

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
11/21/14 3:33 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: It depends, Adrian. I think it's probably up to the local prosecutor or whatever. I think that in general, they get charged with something, from manslaughter down.

This exactly. Of course other factors can swing it one way or the other, and civil lawsuits are always possible.

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