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JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/20/10 10:17 a.m.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1051576_study-women-date-porsche-boxsters-men-take-what-they-can-get

researchers Vladas Griskevicius, Andrew W. Delton, Theresa E. Robertson, and Joshua M. Tybur surveyed 408 students a public university about their feelings toward potential mates. The researchers told each participant in the study about a person of the opposite sex. And among the various details about said person's job and education, participants were told that the person had bought a new car. Some were told that the car was a Porsche Boxster , others were told that the car was a Honda Civic. Participants were then asked to rate this imaginary person on how desirable he or she would be as a long-term or short-term mate. Women saw the Porsche owner as a wild-and-crazy guy -- the kind likely to be interested in a weekend fling: Women perceived the man with the Porsche as opposed to the Honda as significantly more interested in short-term, uncommitted sexual relationships.... This finding suggests that women indeed accurately perceive men who conspicuously consume as more sexually unrestricted, relative to men who spend frugally. And as seedy as that might sound, women still responded positively to the Porsche owner: female participants said they'd be more interested in a short-term relationship with him than with the guy who drove a Honda. Translation: as much as we make fun of guys with showy rides, it seems to work on the ladies. What's worse -- at least for Honda owners -- is that the frugal driver didn't score better than the Porsche owner when it came to long-term relationships. In that portion of the study, the two guys were on equal footing. When the brake shoe was on the other foot, researchers found that men didn't care at all what women drove. The car owned by the hypothetical woman in the survey had little or no impact on whether male participants in the study wanted to pursue long-term or short-term relationships. So basically, human beings think a lot like peacocks do: male peacocks have to do a lot to get the attention of females, but not vice versa.
1988RedT2
1988RedT2 HalfDork
11/20/10 10:23 a.m.

Ha!

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/20/10 11:08 a.m.

This study seems to parallel my own research.

When I drive my Porsche, do you know how many females talk to me about it? All of them. Every single time. It's astonishing. Their comments are almost universally positive. I'm not sure what thoughts that they're thinking and keeping to themselves but, guess what? I don't care.

I would indeed be interested in having short-term, uncommitted sexual relationships with many of them.

I would be interested in pursuing long-term, committed relationships with, approximately, none of them.

Is this news to anyone?

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
11/20/10 11:41 a.m.

"The car owned by the hypothetical woman in the survey had little or no impact on whether male participants in the study wanted to pursue long-term or short-term relationships."

I'm calling BS on this... if I'm driving a high-end sports car, I get hit on every time. In my 323? Never.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/20/10 11:57 a.m.
Lesley wrote: "The car owned by the hypothetical woman in the survey had little or no impact on whether male participants in the study wanted to pursue long-term or short-term relationships." I'm calling BS on this... if I'm driving a high-end sports car, I get hit on every time. In my 323? Never.

PM me next time you're taking the 323 out. I'll swing by in the Porsche.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
11/20/10 12:03 p.m.
Lesley wrote: I'm calling BS on this... if I'm driving a high-end sports car, I get hit on every time. In my 323? Never.

Hitting-on an attractive woman in a high-end sports car = no brainer.......

Not hitting-on an attractive woman in a 323 = no brains......

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
11/20/10 12:14 p.m.

My black VW Corrado is debadged in the front. Strangely, a lot of women seem to think it's some sort of Porsche. They're interested..until they find out it's a VW.

carzan
carzan HalfDork
11/20/10 12:25 p.m.
Lesley wrote: "The car owned by the hypothetical woman in the survey had little or no impact on whether male participants in the study wanted to pursue long-term or short-term relationships." I'm calling BS on this... if I'm driving a high-end sports car, I get hit on every time. In my 323? Never.

My thinking would be that if you are driving around in one or the other, you will notice a difference in the attention you get. However, if you are somewhere away from the cars in a social situation and the subject of cars comes up, a guy's reaction is not going to be much different between the two. Typically, I think it would go something like this:

*Porsche: "Cool, she drives a Porsche. Maybe I can convince her to let me drive her back to her apt. (or whatever) in it."

*Mazda 323: "Maybe I can convince her to let me drive her back to her apt. (or whatever) in my car."

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
11/20/10 12:29 p.m.

Perhaps there are other factors at work with women in high end sports cars. Firstly, we notice the sports car from amongst all the other people movers. Therefore, we're more likely to notice the driver.

Maybe women in sports cars aren't necessarily perceived as more attractive, but seen as more likely to welcome the attention. Plus there's a conversation starter to break the ice. It's tough to say, "Wow, that's a really nice 323. Would you be interested in telling me more about it over coffee sometime?"

That said, I find it attractive when women drive sports cars. Shows me they like some excitement in their lives, and might "get" my interest.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
11/20/10 1:05 p.m.

It's easy. In the minds of most people, Porsche = $$$. So if he has enough disposable income to own a Porsche, he has disposable income to toss her way.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
11/20/10 3:03 p.m.

I'm going to clear some of this up...

Men do not hit on women driving a hot car because they think she is rich - it is because she has a hot car. Everybody wants a girl who is in to cars because they think that is cool.

90% of the people who stare at my 911 at stoplights are either men nearing a crisis, homosexuals or 12yr old boys. The other 10% are law enforcement. My own two boys are so excited by it that they beg to go for rides whenever I try to leave the house. In my admittedly small sample group - the woman, Mrs Snorklewacker, complains it's loud, bumpy and "a little juvenile don't you think".

The only women that were impressed enough with a vehicle of mine to swap bodily fluids on site were rockin' Bon Jovi hair in Bowling Alley parking lots. It was a bitchin' 71 Camaro RS. I miss the 80s.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro Dork
11/20/10 4:24 p.m.

Funny, I consider the type of car a girl drives.

If I ask and she says "A red one!" I know what the outcome will be.

The girl I married drives a full size pickup with a manual transmission.

Shawn

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
11/20/10 4:34 p.m.

Woody, deal!

I rarely drive the Mighty Dak these days, but often had guys ask me just "what in hell is under that hood?" at stoplights. Interviewed Ralph Gilles a couple of years ago, and told him about the 360 on an engine stand in the mudroom off my kitchen. It must've impressed him -- when I talked to him on the Chrysler trip to SF last week, he mentioned it, saying he found that "wildly attractive, but he was already married". Shoot, maybe I should buy another honking big engine?

minimac
minimac SuperDork
11/20/10 5:09 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: - the woman, Mrs Snorklewacker, complains it's loud, bumpy and "a little juvenile don't you think".

I had to laugh. Mrs. Mini says ours "shifts like a UPS truck!"

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/20/10 6:42 p.m.
Lesley wrote: Woody, deal! I rarely drive the Mighty Dak these days, but often had guys ask me just "what in hell is under that hood?" at stoplights. Interviewed Ralph Gilles a couple of years ago, and told him about the 360 on an engine stand in the mudroom off my kitchen. It must've impressed him -- when I talked to him on the Chrysler trip to SF last week, he mentioned it, saying he found that "wildly attractive, but he was already married". Shoot, maybe I should buy another honking big engine?

Now, just imagine telling people that you have an aircooled, twin plug, Porsche 3.6 on a stand in your kitchen...

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
11/20/10 6:55 p.m.
Lesley wrote: Woody, deal! I rarely drive the Mighty Dak these days, but often had guys ask me just "what in hell is under that hood?" at stoplights. Interviewed Ralph Gilles a couple of years ago, and told him about the 360 on an engine stand in the mudroom off my kitchen. It must've impressed him -- when I talked to him on the Chrysler trip to SF last week, he mentioned it, saying he found that "wildly attractive, but he was already married". Shoot, maybe I should buy another honking big engine?

Lesley, maybe that's the difference! I've always said that the only thing boys love more than cars is "girls who like cars"..but we gotta know they're for real.

Woman in a sports car (or exotic)= wealthy (ex?) husband/boyfriend/father/etc. Back when I was unattached, that meant get into guy mode, and go flirt anyway. (insert sports metaphor about making many attempts for the sake of one success here, please..).

Woman with an engine on a stand in the house=golden!

Only prob is how to get to know the lady well enough to discover whether or not she's got a rebuild in the house in the first place. Maybe some wheels & a pipe on that 323? I'd be much more inclined to think it's yours if it doesn't cost cubic dollars..

Now go cruise with Woody, it'll do both of y'all some good.

924guy
924guy Dork
11/20/10 6:56 p.m.

i once ran my own experiment in a fairly crowded bar. I put a big Porsche key fob on my key ring and left it on the bar next to my drink, i got hit on by five women in an hour or so. my friend confirmed they were eyeing the keyring as they flirted with me... definitely not the type of women i was interested in, but it was enlightening... i gave my friend the key fob (okay, he begged me for it) apparenlty he put it too good use, and no, i did not lend him my car... they wouldn't of recognized it as a p car anyhow, they only know 911.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
11/20/10 7:00 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: 90% of the people who stare at my 911 at stoplights are either men nearing a crisis, homosexuals or 12yr old boys. The other 10% are law enforcement.

If this quote doesn't end up in "Say What?", I'm not resuscribing.

Okay, that's an empty threat, and a bald-faced lie. I'm just trying to get the staff's attention.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
11/20/10 7:12 p.m.
924guy wrote: i once ran my own experiment in a fairly crowded bar. I put a big Porsche key fob on my key ring and left it on the bar next to my drink, i got hit on by five women in an hour or so. my friend confirmed they were eyeing the keyring as they flirted with me... definitely not the type of women i was interested in, but it was enlightening... i gave my friend the key fob (okay, he begged me for it) apparenlty he put it too good use, and no, i did not lend him my car... they wouldn't of recognized it as a p car anyhow, they only know 911.

And I thought that only the hardcore 911 folks were still members of that "not a real Porsche" crowd. Gotta admit tho..women my own age recognize a 924/944/928. Of course, I'm pushing 50. YMMV.

mtn
mtn SuperDork
11/20/10 7:29 p.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote: My black VW Corrado is debadged in the front. Strangely, a lot of women seem to think it's some sort of Porsche. They're interested..until they find out it's a VW.

I've got a friend who is not interested in girls that would go after the Porsche driver... He tells girls that his 944 is really a VW

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
11/20/10 8:13 p.m.

I always check out the car, and sometimes accidentally see the driver. Just the other day I noticed a white GT-R driven by an attractive twenty-something female. It almost startled me.

I admit that my head turns for motorcycles more than cars nowadays.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam SuperDork
11/21/10 10:06 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: Funny, I consider the type of car a girl drives. If I ask and she says "A red one!" I know what the outcome will be. The girl I married drives a full size pickup with a manual transmission. Shawn

My fiancee refuses to own an automatic shift car. She also works on her car, albeit with my help sometimes. Nothing more attractive than a good-looking blonde girl with oil all over her arms, still half under the car, yelling, "WHO DECIDED TO PUT THAT DAMNED OIL FILTER ALL THE WAY UP THERE?!"

Nothing in that study surprises me at all, either. When I was single though, if a girl was like "I drive a blue car!" it probably wasn't going anywhere, because that probably meant she was ignorant (I'm not saying you should be able to tell me recommended clearances on the main bearings, but at least know make and model!) or just ditzy, which doesn't do it for me either. But I'm probably the minority on that one. I have several buddies who know less about cars than my fiancee, and I'm sure they don't care if girls know anything about cars either.

GhiaMonster
GhiaMonster New Reader
11/21/10 10:53 a.m.

All the Karmann Ghia gets for comments is how cute it is and that someones Aunt used to own one. Younger people don't know what it is so maybe I'll just start saying it is an old Porsche.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
11/21/10 4:40 p.m.

How do girls feel about guys who drive clapped out ex-squad cars?

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
11/21/10 5:51 p.m.

Or how do they feel about 1997 Troopers? Never mind, I can guess... Oh, well.

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