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DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
8/9/12 12:07 p.m.

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Has this been done? Can it be done? I figure if there's enough room for a cross-flow head, there's gotsta be enough room for an LS??

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/9/12 12:12 p.m.

I'm sure it is do-able
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCMMcTRilDU
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=96355

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
8/10/12 11:48 a.m.

No love for an LS powered Amazon?? I'm amazed. What a good looking car, now put some power and a bucket full of torques and giddyup!!

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
8/10/12 11:53 a.m.

It would be super awesome. I laughed out loud at your hotlink maths, and, as usual, my work-mates think I'm insane. I think you should do it with a custom tube chassis and use a Corvette transaxle. See how short you can make the driveshaft/torquetube. There's the plan.

On 2! On 2!

Ready?!

BREAK!!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/10/12 11:53 a.m.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
8/10/12 12:28 p.m.

"Excuse me, have you seen my red Volvo?"

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/10/12 12:40 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: No love for an LS powered Amazon?? I'm amazed. What a good looking car, now put some power and a bucket full of torques and giddyup!!

It's the LS part. They're so played out now that I overheard at a car show a kid at a 98-02 Trans Am comment "Geeze, another LS1 swap?!?".

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
8/10/12 12:42 p.m.

I think the idea is great.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/10/12 12:43 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

Oh... Not a fan if LS swaps?

dculberson
dculberson Dork
8/10/12 12:49 p.m.

I celebrate the LS1's whole catalog.

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
8/10/12 12:51 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: No love for an LS powered Amazon?? I'm amazed. What a good looking car, now put some power and a bucket full of torques and giddyup!!

It's just that dropping a V8 into a 122 (or the structurally similar 1800) isn't a simple matter. The engine bay and specifically the front suspension was designed for a straight-up inline 4 and is surprisingly tight. With a V-# engine, the exhaust ports exit into the upper a-arm mounts - less of an issue with a cross-flow head (although no 122/1800 ever came with cross-flow heads). There is a guy in SoCal selling a replacement subframe/suspension assembly that will make the swap easier, but they aren't cheap.

Having a crusty 1800ES sitting in my back yard, this is a subject I've thought a lot about...

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/10/12 12:59 p.m.

In reply to N Sperlo:

The 98-02 Trans Am came with an LS1 stock, that's why the comment was funny, ironic, and sad all at the same time. In theory I love the LS, and would really like to own a swapped FD RX-7 and a swapped 944, but in reality I'm so sick of them I wouldn't open the hoods of my hypothetical cars.

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
8/10/12 1:17 p.m.
Ian F wrote:
DrBoost wrote: No love for an LS powered Amazon?? I'm amazed. What a good looking car, now put some power and a bucket full of torques and giddyup!!
It's just that dropping a V8 into a 122 (or the structurally similar 1800) isn't a simple matter. The engine bay and specifically the front suspension was designed for a straight-up inline 4 and is surprisingly tight. With a V-# engine, the exhaust ports exit into the upper a-arm mounts - less of an issue with a cross-flow head (although no 122/1800 ever came with cross-flow heads). There is a guy in SoCal selling a replacement subframe/suspension assembly that will make the swap easier, but they aren't cheap. Having a crusty 1800ES sitting in my back yard, this is a subject I've thought a lot about...

And we are back to the custom chassis I mentioned earlier. Even MOAR win!

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
8/10/12 1:52 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: And we are back to the custom chassis I mentioned earlier. Even MOAR win!

Except these Volvos are unibody cars, so while building a custom chassis is obviously possible, it would be a HUGE undertaking to work right. It's easy to stare at an interent picture and day-dream. It's quite another when you're laying underneath a real car and trying to figure out where to put the chassis members so the floor doesn't end up where the stock seat bottoms are...

I'm not kidding when I say I've wasted a ton of time coming up with ways to make this idea work. One idea that sticks in my head is to cut out the entire floorpan of the car and graft it onto the floor-pan of a Miata (the wheel bases are pretty close). This would solve a whole host of problems fairly cheaply, if not easily. LS swaps into Miatas are well documented.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
8/10/12 2:02 p.m.

"I'd tell you what I'd do Peter man, an LS1 in a Volvo 122..."

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
8/10/12 2:16 p.m.

"Uhh...well, so what do you wanna do?"

"I wanna take you out to dinner, and then I wanna go back to my apartment and check out my LS1 Volvo Amazon."

"I love LS1 Volvo's."

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
8/10/12 2:47 p.m.

Duke, John. Your images aren't showing. Although I can imagine what they are.

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
8/10/12 3:40 p.m.

I love the Office Space hotlinks!!
And Ian F. That's exactly why I posted this here. I figures someone here must have put some time and effort into thunkin' this up. What a beautiful car, I wanna build one sometime. Either the 122 or the 1800.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
8/10/12 3:46 p.m.

"I use to be addicted to Ford 5.0 swaps, but now I'm off and trying to stay clean..."

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/10/12 4:17 p.m.

How about the Yamaha V8 from the Volvo XC90?

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
8/10/12 6:46 p.m.

I put an LS1 in a Volvo, and it was everything I thought it could be.

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
8/10/12 7:03 p.m.

In reply to DrBoost:

No worries. We seem to have a thread about stuffing a V8 into an older Volvo every year or so. A 240 is a better swap candidate as the strut front suspension allows a much roomier engine bay. SBF's fit like the cars were made for them.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG HalfDork
8/10/12 7:16 p.m.

A relatively local guy is building a Lexus V8 powered one here:

http://www.solobc.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

dculberson
dculberson Dork
8/10/12 8:13 p.m.
SkinnyG wrote: A relatively local guy is building a Lexus V8 powered one here: http://www.solobc.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133

Well, that's awesome.

Although it's really an SC400 with a Volvo body on top .. but it's still awesome.

Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz Reader
8/10/12 8:44 p.m.

A bud started a company called Sweedish Ops offering complete bolt in front and rear suspension and LS swap for 1800's/Amazons. See the last page of this thread for pics of the suspension setups. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?80176-Volvo-X-%281967-Pro-Touring-Amazon%29&highlight=volvo

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