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oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
3/20/15 11:52 a.m.

As a civilization WE have to decide what is, and more importantly what isn't civilized. Abuse, physical, or emotional is still abuse... Mr. Clarkson tends to abuse almost everyone... he is just a polished bully... and most of you support his antics....

Maybe another look @ just about any school shooting is required... If we allow Mr.Clarkson's bullying... then we must accept bullies in the rest of our society, and therefore more violence rather then less........

As to John Force... that would be a move outside the box.......

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 11:58 a.m.

I was bullied constantly when I was a kid. I'm now friends with the one guy that bullied me verbally and physically the most. You can choose to be a victim or choose to rise above it.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
3/20/15 12:10 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: You can choose to be a victim or choose to rise above it.

Not everyone was/is as strong as you.....

AND.... you weren't bullied @ work, causing this very public international "fracas" with nearly a million people writing in supporting your bully.....

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 12:13 p.m.

In reply to oldeskewltoy:

Believe me, I'm not that strong. To use that as an excuse is to play the victim. Please understand I'm talking about bullying, not abuse. There's a difference.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
3/20/15 12:20 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to oldeskewltoy: Believe me, I'm not that strong. To use that as an excuse is to play the victim. Please understand I'm talking about bullying, not abuse. There's a difference.

I disagree... there isn't a difference bullying = abuse plain and simple

Sofa King wrote: I have heard it said that one of the problems with today's society is that people aren't afraid of getting punched in the nose! That lack of fear lets us say things that shouldn't be said, and is opens the door to cyber and other forms of verbal bullying. I'm not saying that punching someone else is right, but perhaps we should always act as if they might.

we need to make dueling legal again.... the threat of having to pose, or answer to a duel goes a looooong way towards "civility"...

It is one of the underlying reasons "we" have this democracy... and no one else does... ours was formed while dueling was a common accepted practice for settling disputes.... All this countries founding documents were written before dueling was outlawed, all the framers of these views still lived with dueling as a possible outcome of any actions they took......

edit - yeah, yeah... dueling legal.... my point was in direct reference to sofa kings comment, "people aren't afraid...." and should have included a "maybe"

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 12:22 p.m.

Killing someone in a duel is okay, but bullying isn't. That pretty much illustrates the society we live in.

Sofa King
Sofa King Reader
3/20/15 1:30 p.m.

For what it's worth. I like Clarkson very much on the show, but I doubt that I would like him in person!

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 1:39 p.m.

In reply to Sofa King:

I would agree, assuming he is in person like he is on TV. Not a given.

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
3/20/15 1:42 p.m.

What did I miss

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
3/20/15 1:44 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Sofa King: I would agree, assuming he is in person like he is on TV. Not a given.

I could deal with that, there's plenty of British stereotypical jokes to use as rebuttals for the American ones to be able to win that verbal encounter. Worst case, just punch him in the face.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 1:53 p.m.

In reply to yamaha:

I'm starting to like you, Yamahammer.

Flynlow
Flynlow Reader
3/20/15 1:58 p.m.

Seriously? This hasn't been posted yet?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-police-forced-to-issue-advisory-as-the-stig-drives-tank-through-london-to-deliver-top-gear-petition-to-the-bbc-10122539.html

Sofa King
Sofa King Reader
3/20/15 2:10 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace: Actually I think I would like him if he was like his TV character, but I'm guessing he isn't.

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
3/20/15 2:12 p.m.
GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/20/15 2:13 p.m.

"Minder?" Just call him the "Wrangler"

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 2:17 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Must be a Brit term.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
3/20/15 2:33 p.m.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/watch-jeremy-clarksons-extraordinary-rant-5367242

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/20/15 2:37 p.m.
Flynlow wrote: Seriously? This hasn't been posted yet?: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-police-forced-to-issue-advisory-as-the-stig-drives-tank-through-london-to-deliver-top-gear-petition-to-the-bbc-10122539.html

I love that the main point of the story is that they didn't have their millionth signature yet, and not that the person driving the tank, who they kept calling "The Stig" is so clearly not the actual Stig.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
3/20/15 3:06 p.m.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/video-clarkson-says-hes-been-sacked-and-bbc-fked-up-top-gear/

drummerfromdefleopard
drummerfromdefleopard GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/20/15 3:08 p.m.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jeremy-clarkson-set-for-top-gear-return-at-live-event-in-norway-next-week-10121772.html

interesting that Clarkson is still allowed to do TopGear Live. Every person attending should allow him to punch them in the face

Also I suggest Kelly Clarkson as a replacement hose, or at least open their first show back with "since you've been gone" if it ever happens

Sofa King
Sofa King Reader
3/20/15 4:02 p.m.
drummerfromdefleopard wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jeremy-clarkson-set-for-top-gear-return-at-live-event-in-norway-next-week-10121772.html interesting that Clarkson is still allowed to do TopGear Live. Every person attending should allow him to punch them in the face Also I suggest Kelly Clarkson as a replacement hose, or at least open their first show back with "since you've been gone" if it ever happens

Freudian slip?

drummerfromdefleopard
drummerfromdefleopard GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/20/15 4:04 p.m.

In reply to Sofa King:

nah she can tuck if she'd like

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Dork
3/20/15 4:27 p.m.

What if this is all just a BBC social media ploy to get people riled up and passionate about Top Gear, and thus increase ratings/viewership?

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
3/20/15 4:49 p.m.

In reply to SkinnyG:

That would be so Sony

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/20/15 4:56 p.m.
SkinnyG wrote: What if this is all just a BBC social media ploy to get people riled up and passionate about Top Gear, and thus increase ratings/viewership?

Well, considering how completely screwed up it has been so far, I'd say that if it were true, it certainly would fall into their line of work: "Ambitious but rubbish."

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