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Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar Dork
7/9/12 9:06 a.m.

Sorry, don't have any 5.3's kicking around. I hear they do fit well in a Miata though.

I should be unloading the van from the Chryslers @ Carlisle show. Was thinking about putting some side pipes on the van just for kicks. Wasn't going to plumb them in, but don't want to get beat-up for being a poser.

DelayedPenalty
DelayedPenalty New Reader
7/9/12 9:34 a.m.

By far one of the best forums I visit. I drive a Kia that is a little bit "tuner"; rims, lowering springs, strut bar, etc. There are a few tuner forums I lurk just to check for wheels and whatnot, but dare not post, because as soon as I do all the "OMG KIA IS SO GHEY" posts start flying. You guys drive your paint-by-number Civics and 240s, I'll keep my Rio.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
7/9/12 11:15 a.m.

Getting off vwvortex to come over here was like moving from Cambodia to Western Europe. All I ever use it for anymore is finding obscure parts & parts numbers.

Grizz
Grizz Dork
7/9/12 11:31 a.m.

What did you do when you got flamed?

Cause calling them on their bullE36 M3 and insulting everyones genetics while implying sexual relations with their entire family is a good start.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
7/9/12 12:21 p.m.
Sky_Render wrote: The only thing I dislike about one particular forum I go on is the "LEARN TO SEARCH, NOOB!!!!1!!1!!!ONE!" attitude. It takes less effort to answer a simple question than to flame someone for not searching through a decade of threads.

Ordinarily, I would agree with you, but having been on the administrator side of the fence more than once, I'm going to disagree pretty firmly here.

You should politely direct people to search, but if you establish a forum culture of answering the same idiotic questions over and over and over, what you wind up with is a handful of intelligent, helpful posters who work themselves to death spoonfeeding an ever-growing army of idiot members who don't ever learn to do anything for themselves. That ends up being a spectacularly bad use of good volunteers.

You don't need to flame everyone's first post, but you do need to put a polite but firm foot on it. Particularly when you see a new thread ON THE SAME INDEX PAGE as an existing thread on the same topic.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy UltraDork
7/9/12 12:50 p.m.

I said the fake Tailpipe to make a Honda look cooler was weak.

Dude flames back then locks down the thread since he is a moderator and has already "heard it". I guess we should get back to plastidipping our chrome window trim instead.....

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
7/9/12 2:45 p.m.

There are 3 forums I visit with any regularity:

GRM retro-rides

and occasionally noskooljustcool

Retro-Rides and noskool are both european (based in England I believe), but frequently have cool projects in the build sections, and just....kind of like the GRM boards of Europe it seems. Friendly people, open to pretty much any car you want to talk about. Well...okay, some people at RR might give a little grief over a car that isn't 15+ years old, but that's about it.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/9/12 3:15 p.m.

For sense of a failed rehab center - shoforum

To kick a ginger when he's down - Indycarscene

To troll people into getting their panties in a bunch - here.....

ClemSparks
ClemSparks PowerDork
7/9/12 3:32 p.m.

The reason we can't use the "use the search funcion!" response here is because our search function doesn't...uh...function very well (IMO)

On the other hand, we all keep coming back and helping one another out.

Kind of a blessing in disquise, I suppose.

Clem

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UberDork
7/9/12 4:05 p.m.
Duke wrote:
Sky_Render wrote: The only thing I dislike about one particular forum I go on is the "LEARN TO SEARCH, NOOB!!!!1!!1!!!ONE!" attitude. It takes less effort to answer a simple question than to flame someone for not searching through a decade of threads.
Ordinarily, I would agree with you, but having been on the administrator side of the fence more than once, I'm going to disagree pretty firmly here. You should politely direct people to search, but if you establish a forum culture of answering the same idiotic questions over and over and over, what you wind up with is a handful of intelligent, helpful posters who work themselves to death spoonfeeding an ever-growing army of idiot members who don't ever learn to do anything for themselves. That ends up being a spectacularly bad use of good volunteers. You don't need to flame everyone's first post, but you do need to put a polite but firm foot on it. Particularly when you see a new thread ON THE SAME INDEX PAGE as an existing thread on the same topic.

I have to agree with you on that - I'm a user (not administrator) on a German expat/travel forum and while I like helping people, asking the same question as the other four people on the same page in the same subforum gets rather old.

Or my other favourite, asking the same question that has been answered with "no, you can't do that because " at least ten times already in the same thread, because you are clearly "special" and then get upset when the natives get a little annoyed and start calling them names...

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/9/12 4:09 p.m.
ddavidv wrote: Otherwise, you've got NASIOC and Bimmerforums as a suitable contrast.

Ugh.. the hatred of the Ti is one of the reasons I left Bimmerforums LONG behind. I used to live the backhanded compliments..

"that's a great looking car.. for a Ti"

"I would considerin driving a Ti if it was like your's"

etcetcetc

SilverFleet
SilverFleet Dork
7/9/12 8:02 p.m.

I'm on a few other automotive forums. This is the only one that really feels like home. It's a true melting pot of automotive interests.

My thoughts on a few of the others:

NASIOC: I LOVE the OT section. It's made up of disgruntled former Subaru owners like me, and can get hilarious when the occasional noob wanders in there. Every other section should be locked due to the fact that every possible question someone has on a Subaru has probably been answered at least 658 times already. Most answers are right at the top in the stickies in each subforum. And for some reason, the OT gets major breaking news before the news gets the news. There seems to be someone from the OT at every corner of the globe.

Trans Am Country: Lots of good info, but lots of older, closed-minded people that think the 2nd Gen Trans Am is the best car ever made. I've owned mine for 10 years now, and trust me, it's not the best car ever made. And if you don't buy 'Merican... oh boy... I caught hell for having a WRX on there. I haven't told them I bought a Mazda yet.

78TA.com: Same as above, but with more people and a little more tolerance for the other "best car ever": the 2nd Gen Camaro.

Turbo-Mopar.com: Awesome site with some truly knowledgeable people. Some are on here as well. Just about everyone is a Mopar guy or an automotive nerd, or both. There's a lot of interesting stuff on there.

This forum rules because it's so diverse that if I have an automotive question about any make or model car, I'm sure to find the answer faster than Googling some other forum and searching there. There's an expert on just about anything imaginable on here.

ddavidv
ddavidv UberDork
7/9/12 9:58 p.m.

Edit: nah, that wasn't all that funny once I posted it.

Rufledt
Rufledt Dork
7/9/12 11:31 p.m.

+1 on this forum rocking compared to others. This is pretty much the only forum I go to for car stuff or anything really, except a couple others that are focused on other things not even remotely car related.

Chris_V
Chris_V UltraDork
7/10/12 8:16 a.m.

I dunno, this group can be as collectively closed minded and cliquey as any other forum. Just start talking NASCAR and see what I mean. Or get on the subject of new/newer cars. If we're discussing cheap, old, and obscure, we're golden. ;)

I'm on the HAMB, TCL (since '99) and a few others, including moderating on a couple automotive forums, and this one, while fun and filled with obscure sports car knowledge, is still an aquired taste.

RealMiniDriver
RealMiniDriver SuperDork
7/10/12 8:22 a.m.
Chris_V wrote: I dunno, this group can be as collectively closed minded and cliquey as any other forum. Just start talking NASCAR and see what I mean. Or get on the subject of new/newer cars. If we're discussing cheap, old, and obscure, we're golden. ;) I'm on the HAMB, TCL (since '99) and a few others, including moderating on a couple automotive forums, and this one, while fun and filled with obscure sports car knowledge, is still an aquired taste.

Heaven help us if someone likes automatics.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
7/10/12 8:36 a.m.
Chris_V wrote: I dunno, this group can be as collectively closed minded and cliquey as any other forum. Just start talking NASCAR and see what I mean. Or get on the subject of new/newer cars. If we're discussing cheap, old, and obscure, we're golden. ;)

Thanks. That's a nice succinct explanation of why I prefer the forum to the magazine.

I'm on the HAMB, TCL (since '99) and a few others, including moderating on a couple automotive forums, and this one, while fun and filled with obscure sports car knowledge, is still an aquired taste.

I have a HAMB account, but seldom use it. There are some very talented people there, but I think they're not very supportive of people who don't want to follow their One True Way (tm) of how to build a car. We're a lot more TIMTOWTDI around here.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
7/10/12 8:39 a.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote: Getting off vwvortex to come over here was like moving from Cambodia to Western Europe. All I ever use it for anymore is finding obscure parts & parts numbers.

Well put. It is a joke over there.

Chris_V
Chris_V UltraDork
7/10/12 1:04 p.m.
JoeyM wrote: Thanks. That's a nice succinct explanation of why I prefer the forum to the magazine.

The only issue I find is that, for example, I can discuss my '61 Renault 4CV here and people would be cool with it, but my '06 Mustang and '11 MINI are too new, too modern-modified to be discussed, in general.

One of the things I like about TCL is the new car industry discussions, with a few insiders chiming in. While I may not afford all the new cars now, they WILL become used cars and I like finding out about cars that may find their way to cheapville in the future, as well as cars I MIGHT afford (like the MINI) and drive now. Yeah, there are trolls there, but there's a lot of cool well rounded information there, from industry insiders, to threads on Cars 'n Coffee in various parts of the country, to world car news, to tech stuff.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
7/10/12 1:15 p.m.
Chris_V wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Chris_V wrote: If we're discussing cheap, old, and obscure, we're golden. ;)
Thanks. That's a nice succinct explanation of why I prefer the forum to the magazine.
The only issue I find is that, for example, I can discuss my '61 Renault 4CV here and people would be cool with it, but my '06 Mustang and '11 MINI are too new, too modern-modified to be discussed, in general.

Just tell us that you'll be making a skid plate out of a speed limit sign for the mini, and we'll be happy to tell you how awesome the mini project is.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
7/10/12 2:13 p.m.
SilverFleet wrote: Turbo-Mopar.com: Awesome site with some truly knowledgeable people. Some are on here as well. Just about everyone is a Mopar guy or an automotive nerd, or both. There's a lot of interesting stuff on there.

I miss Turbo-Mopar.com. I don't think they want me there anymore since I sold the Duster.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
7/10/12 2:45 p.m.
Chris_V wrote: The only issue I find is that, for example, I can discuss my '61 Renault 4CV here and people would be cool with it, but my '06 Mustang and '11 MINI are too new, too modern-modified to be discussed, in general.

Really? I like both of those cars as well as the 4CV. Just because I can't afford the latter 2 of the 3 doesn't mean I don't like them.

Now go over to vwvortex and tell them you have a Mustang and see some panties get in a wad real quick. They mail you German car horseblinders when you sign up over there.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
7/10/12 2:48 p.m.

I like turtles.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/10/12 2:52 p.m.

rx7club.com had the most bipolar population ever, from absolutely brilliant guys easily the equal of the bright guys over here and then there were the mouth breathers. Very little in between. The mods were somewhat schizophrenic also, you never knew what would set them off. The signal/noise ratio got to where it wasn't worth the bullE36 M3.

Chris_V
Chris_V UltraDork
7/10/12 3:44 p.m.
Anti-stance wrote:
Chris_V wrote: The only issue I find is that, for example, I can discuss my '61 Renault 4CV here and people would be cool with it, but my '06 Mustang and '11 MINI are too new, too modern-modified to be discussed, in general.
Really? I like both of those cars as well as the 4CV. Just because I can't afford the latter 2 of the 3 doesn't mean I don't like them. Now go over to vwvortex and tell them you have a Mustang and see some panties get in a wad real quick. They mail you German car horseblinders when you sign up over there.

Actually the Vortex (and TCL in particular) is real friendly to Mustangs, with a couple Mustang threads and my own car is well received there. A lot of the regulars OWN Mustangs, including a few new 5.0 and BOSS 302 owners.

Curmudgeon wrote: rx7club.com had the most bipolar population ever, from absolutely brilliant guys easily the equal of the bright guys over here and then there were the mouth breathers. Very little in between. The mods were somewhat schizophrenic also, you never knew what would set them off. The signal/noise ratio got to where it wasn't worth the bullE36 M3.

Agreed. I was there quite a bit with my V8 RX7 and got banned once just for having built it, then got a complete section set up devoted to V8 RX7s, which was cool. Still had the mouthbreathers enter that section and badmouth the conversions, with all sorts of misinformend BS and ranting about soul.

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