Let's discuss the 10mm socket

In reply to aircooled :

You are basically correct, until you work on a Volvo 240, where 12 and 13 both exist on 8X1.25 threads

TurnerX19 said:

I actually found a Snap On 10 mm 1/4 drive socket the other day. 

Lies. That'd be like finding a missing sock.

I'm going to lose mine as soon as I say this, but I've never lost one.

Of course, before any reassembly starts, I always account for all my sockets and wrenches.

When I was doing the AMC thing overseas my mechanics had a bad habit of pocketing 3/32 wrenches. Then I'd have to wake them up.

newrider3 said:

13mm is easy to lose because 13mm is not a real size, and any OEM who uses it is a dick. 

I work for GM. GM uses 13mm a lot. The logic checks out.

NickD said:

newrider3 said:

13mm is easy to lose because 13mm is not a real size, and any OEM who uses it is a dick. 

I work for GM. GM uses 13mm a lot. The logic checks out.

The head bolts on my Chevy truck are 13mm- I mean, 1/2.



 

Brett_Murphy said:

TurnerX19 said:

I actually found a Snap On 10 mm 1/4 drive socket the other day. 

Lies. That'd be like finding a missing sock.

I've found 3 10mm sockets while riding my road bike. One is a nice 3/8" drive Snap-on deep socket.  My guess is folks forget them in the engine bay, go out for a test drive, then engine vibrations and gravity do their things. 

And we can't have a missing 10mm socket discussion without:

I am in the 13mm group.  Standard sockets, deep, 1/4 drive, 3/8 drive, combination wrenches, mostly gone from multiple sets.  I still have a combination wrench in the door pocket; I don't seem to lose that one.  10mm I can find all day.

I bought a set of color-coded sockets at HF the other day. Not because it will help me identify the sizes quickly, but because the 10mm is a nice purple color so hopefully I'll be more careful not to lose it because it's pretty.

I honestly hate the 10mm meme/missing tools threads.  Its just laziness, not humor.    

I have lost tools precisely one time and it pisses me off to this day.  Left a Snap On screwdriver and a nice beak nose crescent wrench on the rear bumper of my truck.  How sloppy do you have to be to lose any tools?  Everything is wiped down with a rag and brake cleaner between jobs.  Toolbox organized and locked.

Hell, sometimes I stop mid-job to clean and organize my tools.  Put it all away, clean my workstation, then start over on the reassemble steps.  Get out the tools I need to reassemble something.  

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

That is generally what I try to do. Sometimes I'll even do it in the middle of a task when I notice that I'm having trouble finding a tool. Stop. Put everything away. Start over again. Everything goes away at the end of a session, regardless of whether or not I'll be gettign right back to it the next morning.  Because too many times, "the next morning" turns into days or more.  I have lost very few tools as well.

Right now, my issue is having multiple work areas and it becomes more of a need to buy duplicate tools so I'm not having to take tools from the garage to the shed to do minor tasks.  Shed tools don't need to be the best quality.  A H-F combo set should be fine. 

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

93gsxturbo said:

I honestly hate the 10mm meme/missing tools threads.  Its just laziness, not humor.    

I have lost tools precisely one time and it pisses me off to this day.  Left a Snap On screwdriver and a nice beak nose crescent wrench on the rear bumper of my truck.  How sloppy do you have to be to lose any tools?  Everything is wiped down with a rag and brake cleaner between jobs.  Toolbox organized and locked.

Hell, sometimes I stop mid-job to clean and organize my tools.  Put it all away, clean my workstation, then start over on the reassemble steps.  Get out the tools I need to reassemble something.  

Well good for you, Mr. Responsiblepants. I hope you never have an accident trying to get your belt undone and suspenders off when trying to get to the bathroom!

WOAH... you can buy multi-packs on Amazon. One brand is "Car Guy Tools" (suspicious eyebrow) and the other is GearWrench.

The best part is that the Car Guy brand offers "subscribe and save" haha.

In reply to Brett_Murphy :

Here is photo of it. I put it in my surplus drawer, as now that I have a spare I will only loose some other size.

Where is it written that if you drop a 10/13 mm socket it must roll on the floor to the exact center of the vehicle being serviced ?

iceracer said:

Where is it written that if you drop a 10/13 mm socket it must roll on the floor to the exact center of the vehicle being serviced ?

To be fair, all water in that space rolls toward the drain too...

93gsxturbo said:

I honestly hate the 10mm meme/missing tools threads.  Its just laziness, not humor.    

 

It seems this thread struck a nerve.

Ever spend a few minutes looking for your glasses and realize you were wearing them? I view the 10mm stuff like that, and find the humor in it. If I was lazy, I wouldn't be trying to fix my own junk in the first place. It's very limited time, haste, a wandering mind and having to work in the great outdoors. Things don't generally stay lost forever, they just disapper for a few minutes or get dropped into a pile of leaves and stay there until the magnet sweeper teases them out. Or, in my favorite episode of a 10mm being "lost" I was sitting on it and didn't realize it because it was a gravel surface and I had on 4 layers of winter clothes.

NickD said:

newrider3 said:

13mm is easy to lose because 13mm is not a real size, and any OEM who uses it is a dick. 

I work for GM. GM uses 13mm a lot. The logic checks out.

I have a couple of 13mm fittings on my Honda riding mower.  

SkinnyG said:

Never lost one.  Ever. 

Magic.

Yup, pretty sure I still have the original that came with the Craftsman tool set I got 14 years ago. Of course, now that I've said that, I'm sure it will walk off this weekend. 

My thing seems to be breaking 16mm sockets, which is weird because it's such a rarely used size. But I think I've replaced at least three of them now.

I don't lose them, but I do run into "oh, you need the skinny 1/4" one, or the 3/8" deep one, or..." Not sure why...

In reply to Furious_E :

What is this 10 mm of which you speak you young wipersnapper?    Inches,  like all right thinking Americans !!  
Iffin' ya must talk furrin' Ya can use Whitworth 'cause at least them's based  on the good old 3 barley corn from the center or the ear. 

In reply to Brett_Murphy

When I first started worrking at a VW dealer I had no metric wrenches.+

I removed my first engine with close enought wrenches.