Lunch Police

Bobzilla wrote:

Salanis wrote: ...Clearly, you have never been a teacher.

and it's obvious you haven't either. teachers have about 15,000 OTHER things they have to take care of. Checking someone's lunch IS NOT ONE. This is retarded. Beyond retarded. This is so retarded it makes Rain Man look like friggin Van Wilder.

Policing every bag? Hell no. Keeping an eye out to be sure that kid over there isn't eating only oreos for lunch? Yeah. At least, when I'm only watching 40 kids, not 400.

And as I pointed out, the shiny happy person saying the turkey sandwich and juice wasn't healthy enough wasn't a teacher.

(Taught at a private school for 3 years.)

Are you guys really getting wound around the axle about a kid eating chicken nuggets? I mean that's the end result right?

When I went to school it was so fascist they told me when I could use the bathroom! Damned Reagan. I knew he was behind it.

Meh, just give the inspector a 8/10 on her evaluation, so she won't get her full incentive compensation.

She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

Salanis wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

Salanis wrote: ...Clearly, you have never been a teacher.

and it's obvious you haven't either. teachers have about 15,000 OTHER things they have to take care of. Checking someone's lunch IS NOT ONE. This is retarded. Beyond retarded. This is so retarded it makes Rain Man look like friggin Van Wilder.

Policing every bag? Hell no. Keeping an eye out to be sure that kid over there isn't eating only oreos for lunch? Yeah. At least, when I'm only watching 40 kids, not 400. And as I pointed out, the shiny happy person saying the turkey sandwich and juice wasn't healthy enough wasn't a teacher. (Taught at a private school for 3 years.)

If the parent packed the kid oreos then let the damn kid eat oreos. Let the teacher teach the kids math , spelling, reading, etc. No one inspected my lunch and I turned out just fine. I don't need the government to run my life.

dankspeed wrote:

Salanis wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

Salanis wrote: ...Clearly, you have never been a teacher.

and it's obvious you haven't either. teachers have about 15,000 OTHER things they have to take care of. Checking someone's lunch IS NOT ONE. This is retarded. Beyond retarded. This is so retarded it makes Rain Man look like friggin Van Wilder.

Policing every bag? Hell no. Keeping an eye out to be sure that kid over there isn't eating only oreos for lunch? Yeah. At least, when I'm only watching 40 kids, not 400. And as I pointed out, the shiny happy person saying the turkey sandwich and juice wasn't healthy enough wasn't a teacher. (Taught at a private school for 3 years.)

If the parent packed the kid oreos then let the damn kid eat oreos. Let the teacher teach the kids math , spelling, reading, etc. No one inspected my lunch and I turned out just fine. I don't need the government to run my life.

Look he wasn't saying that the way that is being handled there is right he is just saying (at least I am reading it that way) that teachers should care for their students as well as teach them. My gf is a teacher in the county where I grew up. Something like 70% of the kids are on free or reduced lunch plans. A good portion of them come to school without having a shower or a change of clothes. Their parents just set them in front of the TV or game system and let that raise them. The kids are just an annoyance or for some of the richer former teenage mothers a fashion statement. They need some good influence in their life.

Edit: Just to be clear I am not arguing for what is going on in North Carolina.

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs

The part you wouldn't want to eat.

ThePhranc wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs The part you wouldn't want to eat.

And the teachers are forcing the kids to eat this crap??

Snowdoggie wrote:

ThePhranc wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs The part you wouldn't want to eat.

And the teachers are forcing the kids to eat this crap??

At gunpoint!

ThePhranc wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs The part you wouldn't want to eat.

I make liver pudding. Love the stuff. Ground up pig liver, skin, fat, and butt. Most of those I wouldn't eat by themselves. But mix them up...

Chicken nuggets don't bother me too much. When I was growing up you didn't waste anything.

Oh, and if that was my kid, I'd probably have something to say to the school. Wasting food I pay for kind of pisses me off.

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

ThePhranc wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs The part you wouldn't want to eat.

And the teachers are forcing the kids to eat this crap??

At gunpoint!

Freakin Obamacare!

Forcing those poor young kids to eat a rooster's privates instead of good old American Oreo Cookies!!

They will probably grow up to be gay socialists and want to get married. Gawd Damn Amerikka!!!

Toyman01 wrote:

ThePhranc wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: She gets a bonus for how many chicken nuggets she makes kids eat, right?

Chicken NUGGETS? What part of the chicken is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OK6xDd7Hs The part you wouldn't want to eat.

I make liver pudding. Love the stuff. Ground up pig liver, skin, fat, and butt. Most of those I wouldn't eat by themselves. But mix them up... Chicken nuggets don't bother me too much. When I was growing up you didn't waste anything.

No bones or emulsifiers like lecithin, mono/ tri/diglycerides ? Not soaked in ammonia?

In reply to ThePhranc:

You don't think the quality food served by our quality schools would have any of that nasty stuff in it, do you. Nothing but the best, after all, it's for the children.

Of course the fruits and veggies were probably covered in pesticides, the milk was shot full of growth hormones and the poor child had to eat it with a cheap plastic spork that had some nasty mold release on it. That lunch might have actually been worse than what the parents provided.

The problem is the government took that choice away from the parents. As usual they are sticking their regulations where they aren't wanted or really even needed.

jstein77 wrote:

Salanis wrote: As a former teacher at a private school... heck YES we paid attention to what the kids eat, especially the younger ones. Kids who eat junk are harder to manage.

So the little girl ended up not eating her healthy sandwich, but eating some greasy fried chicken nuggets instead. That worked out well, didn't it?

My kid brown bags it pretty much every day. She LOVES turkey sandwiches. She also generally has a fruit cup and some other odds n' ends which are kid packed but Dad approved.

The only time she will eat chicken nuggets is if we get chicken tenders at Zaxby's. She doesn't like the 'fused' stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_oem9BqUTI

I'm not blaming President Obama. I know somebody's gonna jump on me.

But he's not hands off on this subject either:

Presidential Memorandum on Childhood Obesity

Memorandum said: Therefore, I have set a goal to solve the problem of childhood obesity within a generation so that children born today will reach adulthood at a healthy weight. The First Lady will lead a national public awareness effort to tackle the epidemic of childhood obesity. She will encourage involvement by actors from every sector -- the public, nonprofit, and private sectors, as well as parents and youth -- to help support and amplify the work of the Federal Government in improving the health of our children. But to meet our goal, we must accelerate implementation of successful strategies that will prevent and combat obesity. Such strategies include updating child nutrition policies in a way that addresses the best available scientific information, ensuring access to healthy, affordable food in schools and communities, as well as increasing physical activity and empowering parents and caregivers with the information and tools they need to make good choices for themselves and their families. To succeed, these efforts must be strategically targeted, and accountability should be clear. They will help our children develop lifelong healthy habits, ensuring they reach their greatest potential toward building a healthier and more prosperous America. To these ends, I hereby direct the following:... ...Sec. 2. Mission and Functions of the Task Force. The Task Force shall work across executive departments and agencies to develop a coordinated Federal response while also identifying nongovernmental actions that can be taken to solve the problem of childhood obesity within a generation. The functions of the Task Force are advisory only and shall include, but are not limited to, making recommendations to meet the following objectives: (a) ensuring access to healthy, affordable food; (b) increasing physical activity in schools and communities; (c) providing healthier food in schools; and (d) empowering parents with information and tools to make good choices for themselves and their families.

Edited for brevity.

There's been a task force for 3 years on this subject implemented by the President, and Chaired by the First Lady.

Yes, "Childhood obesity" translates to the lunch police and chicken nuggets. Didn't you know that?

Since I started my diet I have had turkey on wheat almost every day, but I am safe because I squirt a bit of ketchup on it which counts as a veggie as far as schools are concerned.

The lunch police, they live inside of my head
The lunch police, they come to me in my school
The lunch police, they're coming to feed me, oh, no

You know that talk is cheap
And those rumors ain't nice
And when I eat lunch 
I don't think I'll survive the meal, the meal

'Cause they're waiting for me
They're looking for me
Every single day
They're driving me insane
Those men inside my school

The lunch police, they live inside of my head (live inside of my head)
The lunch police, they come to me in my school (come to me in my school)
The lunch police, they're coming to feed me, oh, no

Well, I can't tell lies
'Cause they're listening to me
And when I eat lunch
Bet they're spying on me today, today

'Cause they're waiting for me
They're looking for me
Every single day 
They're driving me insane
Those men inside my school

I try to eat, they're watching me, they won't let me alone
They don't get paid to take vacations or let me alone
They spy on me, I try to hide, they won't let me alone
They persecute me, they're the judge and jury all in one

'Cause they're waiting for me
They're looking for me
Every single day 
They're driving me insane
Those men inside my school

The lunch police, they live inside of my head (live inside of my head)
The lunch police, they come to me in my school(come to me in my school)

you know, I haven't even seen my wife this week. She's been working 6am-10pm trying to get all her paperwork finished for the IEP's, her classroom re-roganized to meet some new standards and grading, evaluating etc. The last thing she needs is to have to check, then "fix" all of her student's lunches.

Like I said on Page 1, just a mistake, not decline and fall of our civilization.

The girl’s teacher should have handed the child a carton of milk to round out the turkey-and-cheese sandwich and banana she brought from home. Instead, the teacher erred by telling the tyke to get a cafeteria lunch. The North Carolina Pre-Kindergarten is a state-run enrichment program to help 4-year-olds at risk of starting school lagging behind their peers. The program has 1,100 sites serving 25,000 children and is required to supply a healthful lunch.

The question still remains, why does the teacher have to give the child a carton of milk? And why does the teacher have the authority to tell the kid she has to go get a full cafeteria lunch, even if the decision was made in error?

If the kids show up without a lunch from home, then the school should be providing a healthy lunch and there should be some sort of outline of what this constitutes.

If the kid brings a lunch with them from home, what's in it is not the business of any school administrator. I'm not upset by the isolated incident, I'm upset by the fact that this is a reflection on the attitude that the government thinks these types of things are any of their damn business.

What I'd be worried about is some kid with allergies dying thanks to one of these well-meaning but in that case uninformed lunch inspectors.

dinger wrote: The question still remains, why does the teacher have to give the child a carton of milk? And why does the teacher have the authority to tell the kid she has to go get a full cafeteria lunch, even if the decision was made in error?

Sounds like this child had been bringing pretty much the same thing for lunch for quite a while, and the teachers were fine with it. It was only when an official inspector came to evaluate their program based on stupidly specific guidelines that said nosy bureaucrat decided the child's lunch was insufficient.

If the kid brings a lunch with them from home, what's in it is not the business of any school administrator. I'm not upset by the isolated incident, I'm upset by the fact that this is a reflection on the attitude that the government thinks these types of things are any of their damn business.

I do think it is the business of the teachers. It is generally a lot easier to teach kids who have eaten a healthy and balanced meal rather than a bunch of junk. You get better attention for longer, and it's a lot easier to do your job of teaching them math, science, and writing.