Man dies trapped in Corvette

What happened to the car?

tuna55 wrote:

Trans_Maro wrote: In reply to tuna55: dog had no choice and was completely dependent on the man. Higher evolved primate caused the death of lower creature which had unconditional love for said primate. That's why it's sad.

Sure, but the loss of a human life is a bit more important. We eat cows, but not people, ya know?

[Southpark] Berkley you chicken and cow [/Southpark]

Datsun1500 wrote:

DrBoost wrote: I dowloaded the owner's manual for the '07 vette. After talking about the proper way to lock your car, the dangers of not locking your car, the dangers of heat exposure in a closed in car, they do address the secondary release for the door, and provide a picture that looks nothing like the actual lever. Again, it wasn't broke, don't fix it.

You don't think the diagram on the left that shows the passenger side lever looks anything like the actual passenger side lever shown here? How much closer would you need?

Looks similar to, apparently, the passenger side lever, unless you flipped your picture to match the piss-poor drawing. Why would they show the passenger side lever when its more likely that the driver will be the one needing this information? I develop technical training classes and manuals for a living. These are intended for folks that have a much higher mechanical aptitude and logical thinking than average folk. Even so, we use pictures that tell a story. That line drawing (WRONG!) doesn't show anything that gives a visual reference as to the location of the lever. Yes, the verbiage gives a vague reference, but considering that the lever is something that is likely to come into play during an urgent, or panic situation, it should have been clearer.
This thread will go nowhere. There are those that think the lever should be mounted on the door and/or made to be more obvious or intuitive. Then there are those that feel for the dog because he was saddled with a stupid owner that should not have been allowed to drive. I wonder how those people would feel if it were their dad in the car....

trucke wrote: What happened to the car?

Somebody is about to get a killer deal on a hot car

In reply to tuna55:

I didn't say the human life was more important.

I'm saying it's sadder that the dog died because it had no control over the situation and was entirely dependent on it's owner being able to figure out how not to get trapped in his own car.

Datsun1500 wrote: In reply to DrBoost: I did not flip my photo. Your drawing shows the passenger side, even shows the floor mat. My photo shows the passenger side, even shows the floor mat..... How would I feel if it was My Dad? I'd be fine, as he would know where the release was on his car.

If it was your dad that died? I guess I have to be very specific with you
The drawing (again, FAIL, why use a line drawing) is from a perspective the passenger (again, FAIL, why not the driver's seat) would never see. Again, I'll be obtuse here, if the picture is from the wrong perspective and/or from too close or far away it does nothing to help the individual that is in the situation.
I'll quote SVreX because this sums up the whole thread:

"It's not the job of the stressed or panicked individual to think clearly and figure out a better way. It is the job of good designers to design quality fail-safes."

Not to take sides or anything but there’s a typo in the document ”use the key in the cylinder above the license plate to open the hatch the use the door release tab located…”. Obviously it was supposed to say then so it doesn't look like they had their best and brightest folks creating or proofing the document.

RX Reven' wrote:

trucke wrote: What happened to the car?

Somebody is about to get a killer deal on a hot car

It's the new Christine!

RX Reven' wrote: Obviously it was supposed to say then so it doesn't look like they had their best and brightest folks creating or proofing the document.

Or...maybe they did have their best and brightest. Could be the reason we are in this mess now

Datsun1500 wrote: Soft top Jeep doors just have a basic latch, no where near a "regular" handle, is that a bad design?

They would be if they were on the chassis instead of on the door.

Apples to oranges Datsun.

There was a thread recently about GM ignition switches. Some folks thought that ignition switches don't kill people. Some folks thought GM was the debil, and should be hung up by their cajones.

It was settled in court, and everyone now seems to agree with the ruling (or at least says nothing about it).

I wonder what people would think if a court ruled that GM killed the dog

I've got nothing to prove. You are welcome to think what you want.

I will refrain from saying what I have actually learned here. Why? Because I really do have no desire to win at all. But it ain't about door latches.

Woooo womens soccer!!!!!!!!!!

Ms. Service just said something interesting about this topic.

Maybe it was intentional.

and that SVReX is just flat wrong. She thinks that Corvettes are small penis machines so if you were going to have a friend in this fight it would have been her.

If it was a Lexus we wouldn't have had an 8 page debate with people calling for lawsuits against the manufacturer. Because on the GRM forums GM is the devil.

I like the statements about people on here not reading the owners manual, or even skimming them.

I never realised that it was cool to be ignorant.

I guess not reading your owners manual is some sort of automotive version of "keeping it real".

My wife pulls the damn passenger's seatbelt out all the way before putting it on, this causes the child seat locking feature of the seatbelt to engage which does not allow the belt to move out again once it ratchets back against whatever it is holding, until it is fully retracted to reset the latch.

She keeps insisting that the belt is broken, I've explained several times that it is operating correctly as per the manual included in the glove box.

She refuses to believe me.

Clearly, this is bad engineering because it is not intuitive and is designed to get me in a damn fight every time she rides in the passenger's seat.

I need to sue Ford.

Or figure out how to get my wife to RTFM!

Everyone keeps talking about his this guy must not have been mentally able to figure out the latch mechanism..

Ever been in a hot car with the windows up? It would not take long for the heat to begin to affect the brain as he searched for the unlocking mechanism or tried to read the manual to find said unlocking mechanisms.

A car parked in the sun on a 90 degree day can reach internal temps of over 160 desgrees (and vettes have a lot of windows that face upwards to catch the sun with their low slung shape) in less than 10 minutes from the time the air is shut off. If he had just come out of the Wafflehouse.. the car was already hot inside.. probably more than hot enough to cook his brain in just a few short minutes

Datsun1500 wrote: If I hit this button and the doors don't unlock, what do I do? How do I get out? There's no knob near the window at the rear of the door, that's where it usually is, I guess I'm a dead man.

I'm guessing you pull on the door handle? That's the point of this thread. I think some people here argue just to argue. I really find it hard to believe that anyone here thinks it logical to do anything other than pull the door handle to open a door.

In reply to DrBoost:

In some cars pulling the handle doesn't open the door if it's locked.

DrBoost wrote: I really find it hard to believe that anyone here thinks it logical to do anything other than pull the door handle to open a door.

You and your dog just died!

Continue? Y/N

This thread died a while ago. I should have checked out. The last two posts need no reply

Really?

Nick and Datsun are both correct.

I'm just throwing gas on a fire.

Go usa women's soccer!

9 pages, geezus

Trans_Maro wrote: Nick and Datsun are both correct.

And this marks the first time in the history of ever that Trans Maro, Datsun and myself have ever agreed on the same topic at the same time. Score one for the universe.