In reply to Indy - Guy :
I went to PRI in Indy in 2003 +/- a year. The credentials were hard then. I made up a company and had to make up business cards to show we "worked" there. The company was Dyson Racing which was our race team. We raced out of a horse barn with a c30 van pulling an open trailer but we made it.
NY Nick said:In reply to Indy - Guy :
I went to PRI in Indy in 2003 +/- a year. The credentials were hard then. I made up a company and had to make up business cards to show we "worked" there. The company was Dyson Racing which was our race team. We raced out of a horse barn with a c30 van pulling an open trailer but we made it.
My PRI experience was similar. Where there's a will there's a way!
A good friend of mine who works in the industry just sent me this picture of the next-gen full size Chevy trucks!
ProDarwin said:eastsideTim said:ProDarwin said:I'm curious what amount of the added height of a new F150 is from regulation. I dont think its much, if any. I bet most of it is styling and capacity - need a place for cooling an engine making 1341543154315 horsepower moving at slow speed towing an entire neighborhood up a mountain.
Edit: Plus the (base) tires alone on a 2022 are 4" taller than a 1990. I dont think any regulation forced that.
There's also the need to make the suspension handle the added weight capacity that "half-ton" trucks can handle now, while simultaneously making the ride more comfortable since they have replaced other cars as the family hauler. And keeping the cab/doghouse looking right when upping the height of the bedsides so they can advertise a higher cubic foot capacity.
Right.
Manufacturers are absolutely capable of making stuff the size they used to be. Yes, some visibility has decreased, but I would argue the amount of that driven by regulation is minimal, the amount driven by styling/buyers is significant.
But isn't it great to be able to see over traffic?
Never mind that now all the traffic is as tall as you are in your gargantuan truck...
eastsideTim said:ProDarwin said:I'm curious what amount of the added height of a new F150 is from regulation. I dont think its much, if any. I bet most of it is styling and capacity - need a place for cooling an engine making 1341543154315 horsepower moving at slow speed towing an entire neighborhood up a mountain.
Edit: Plus the (base) tires alone on a 2022 are 4" taller than a 1990. I dont think any regulation forced that.
There's also the need to make the suspension handle the added weight capacity that "half-ton" trucks can handle now, while simultaneously making the ride more comfortable since they have replaced other cars as the family hauler. And keeping the cab/doghouse looking right when upping the height of the bedsides so they can advertise a higher cubic foot capacity.
Yeah, no. The suspensions have the same close to zero travel in the front and 4" or so in the rear that they always have. They are just taller to make incels happy about spending $90k on a truck.
You could EASILY make the beds one, two feet lower on new trucks. And it would make them a hell of a lot easier to do truck things with, too.
1988RedT2 said:A good friend of mine who works in the industry just sent me this picture of the next-gen full size Chevy trucks!
Sir! That Powerliner is a damn sight better looking than the hatchet-job Chevrolet. And at least it has a reason to look the way it does.
And now I'm off to YouTube to fill my playlist with two-stroke Detroit noises...
Pete. (l33t FS) said:You could EASILY make the beds one, two feet lower on new trucks. And it would make them a hell of a lot easier to do truck things with, too.
Got a nice liquor cabinet off FB Market about a month ago. Seller warned me, "It might be too big to fit in an SUV. We had to keep the tail gate down on our pickup truck."
He was shocked at how easily I could fit it in my minivan. I laughed.
Duke said:But isn't it great to be able to see over traffic?
Never mind that now all the traffic is as tall as you are in your gargantuan truck...
That's why I like my Miata. I just look under them.
Dang, didn't realize that ye ol crackers of communion had multi page legs. Ah well, on to the next mindless chuckle!
NY Nick said:In reply to Indy - Guy :
I went to PRI in Indy in 2003 +/- a year. The credentials were hard then. I made up a company and had to make up business cards to show we "worked" there. The company was Dyson Racing which was our race team. We raced out of a horse barn with a c30 van pulling an open trailer but we made it.
I went once in the late 90's with a group of four of us from Ford. They gave us a really hard time questioning why Ford would be going to a race car show.
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